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Topic author: cedricfan
Posted on: 20081130083632
Anyone know anything about this lens?
Reply author: Luiz Paracampo
Replied on: 20081130151701
Juhani
see
http://www.novacon.com.br/odditycameras/selena.htmThis lens was made for Selena Police cameras This camera uses the same Shutter of Chaika cameras and I believe they were made in M39 mount. Otherwise they have common diaphragm and no pre set ones.
The camera register is also different from Zorki or Zenit.
Regards
LP
Reply author: cedricfan
Replied on: 20081210143506
Now in my hands. Normal Zenit-M42 mount, and does focus to infinity. But aperture lever has no space to move, lens mount gets in the way. So it can be used on B, E etc Zenits with manual aperture control. The lens aperture ring has a groove to couple into something, so Selena propably had some kind of external control system? Pics to come tomorrow!
Reply author: cedricfan
Replied on: 20081214141152
Reply author: Luiz Paracampo
Replied on: 20081214193351
Ok Juhani!
Pls explain better -----But aperture lever has no space to move,-----
Are you describing the "U" shape part responsible in auto coupling lenses with pin for auto diaphragam/-"M" series?
Regards LP
Reply author: cedricfan
Replied on: 20081214231924
Yes, same part. And seen from lens side the lens has parts that come further into camera than usually. On the other hand this lens is as short as the Helios-44 so it is not a typical old formula.
Smena rules
Reply author: AidasCams
Replied on: 20081215030318
Hi Juhani,
I do have a spare Selena Traffic camera to fit your lens ... May be you are interested in? [:D][:D][:D]
Best Regards,
Aidas
Reply author: Luiz Paracampo
Replied on: 20081219183617
Juhani
You can see more about this lens at
http://www.photohistory.ru/1207248189184920.htmland
http://rangefinder.ru/club/viewtopic.php?t=3354 
http://www.ussrphoto.com/UserContent/Jup38_39.jpg
http://www.ussrphoto.com/UserContent/Jup38_39.jpgtranslation of text
Both objectives were intended for the recording camera (RFK) " Selena", calculated for the frame 24x36 mm.
It appeared to me one of these miracle of technology!
Objective “Jupiter-38” (M42) 4/76, diaphragm 4-22, according to the scale - it possesses large depth of focus. Judging by the marks (on thelens) - BelOMO. It is possible using Pentax-K mount adapting transfering ring in M42 - It gives outstanding pictures. <font size="4"><b>The distance focusing goes up to no more than 10m (on Zenit cameras goes to 4.5m) the rear of objective begins to catch mirror and makes the focusing impossible (in large distances)</b></font id="size4">.
Although it is possible to evaluate through the hiperfocal.
In the "Jupiter -39" the focusing is completele normal. I.e. it is possible the use with SLRs,
This is interesting, the focusing ring and the diaphragm ring is built as on rangefinder cameras. I.e. the focusing ring is nearer to the pentaprism.
There are said that these objectives are collectible items now. They are part of the Recording camera of "RFK Selena". Produced to the police in the form of an encased set.
Probably so it is, because to from the familiar sign from the police to the written as needless items. By the way, judging by their conditions, no one used them since new.
Thus it is interesting, who knowa using similar objectives?. Are there any descriptive literature?
What for is such recording camera?
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" Everything, that leaves from under the hands of Japanese, be a broken knob or tape recorder, must be a work of art".
Konosuke Matsusita
Note : One can see a similar “Agfa Register Camera” at Mc Keown’s book.
<font size="4"><b>Juhani - Can you confirm the Bolt letters?</b></font id="size4">
Reply author: cedricfan
Replied on: 20081220044455
No problems on Zenit-E with mirror, and does focus to infinity. But like I said, on eg 122 the shutter can not be released at all. Same problem mounting on modern K-mount cameras: the lens rear is too big! So yes, can be used with old Zenits that have manual aperture and small mirror.
Best regards,
Juhani
Reply author: Luiz Paracampo
Replied on: 20081220141145
As it works on old Zenit E, so will do wit old Contax S and D.
Advantages of old design!
Thanks and Regards
LP
Reply author: cedricfan
Replied on: 20090101053125