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mermoz37 Posted - Jan 05 2010 : 11:09:03 AM
note :
a "no-name" factory design Lubitel (black front paint whith original rivets) may be to be silk screen rebadged in export or just for International exibition ? (never used)
and an original Kristall whithout usual hammered grey enamel.Seem to be factory made like this : soft matt aluminium (whithout any scratches or cracks)...I can confirm never painted.
serial number : 61018045


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schyter Posted - Nov 09 2019 : 3:31:27 PM
a simple Praktina IIA ...


Only dead fish follow the stream ...
Fred_L Posted - Nov 09 2019 : 12:12:51 PM
Hi Alexander

I cannot take picture at the moment,
On bottom, there is only the tripod nut.
There is not button as we can see on wiki

I'll take a pic later

Best regards

AlexanderK Posted - Nov 03 2019 : 12:07:04 PM
Hi Fred,
could you please post a photo from bottom? Thank you.

Regards, Alexander
Fred_L Posted - Nov 03 2019 : 11:38:53 AM
Hi all!!

Seems to be an early one


http://www.ussrphoto.com/UserContent2/3112019_Foton_1 LD.jpg

http://www.ussrphoto.com/UserContent2/3112019_Foton_2 LD.jpg

http://www.ussrphoto.com/UserContent2/3112019_Foton_3 LD.jpg

http://www.ussrphoto.com/UserContent2/3112019_Foton_4 LD.jpg

xya Posted - Nov 02 2019 : 11:57:11 AM
Originally posted by Jacques M.

And thanks for your detailed explanations on your site.
Hope you will post photos made with that camera.

Amitiés. Jacques.

as soon as the film slitter arrives, I will try it and show some photos. amitiés. reinhard

www.a7camera.com www.120folder.com www.instantphoto.eu www.135compact.com www.oddcameras.com
Vlad Posted - Nov 02 2019 : 10:53:39 AM
Hi Jacques, can you please open a thread regarding your Kiev that had no-name plate, can you please post a photo of a the noname plate that you have left over, especially I am interested in the bottom portion of it that has a cut out for the tripod socket. Thank you!

Xya, Marcolin, nice Zorki 3M and F21!! Congratulations!

Best regards,
Jacques M. Posted - Nov 02 2019 : 10:13:42 AM

And thanks for your detailed explanations on your site.
Hope you will post photos made with that camera.

Amitiés. Jacques.
xya Posted - Nov 02 2019 : 09:46:50 AM
just arrived, an Ajax F21.


if you want to read more about this camera http://www.135compact.com/ajax_f21.htm

I'm waiting for a slitter to cut 21mm film...

www.a7camera.com www.120folder.com www.instantphoto.eu
marcolin Posted - Oct 07 2019 : 11:47:02 AM
Ok, i feel that my "new" old Zorki 3M should be officially introduced in this thread.



Jacques M. Posted - Oct 03 2019 : 09:19:34 AM

Last for the FSU cameras, a curious Kiev 1950. It was equipped with a "no name" front plate when I bought it. Happily, I had a correct 1950 Kiev front to give it back to its identity.


This Kiev 1950 was mounted mainly with Dresden parts: finder, shutter box, etc. No inscription behind the shutter box:


If you are interested, I can open a special thread about this camera.

Amitiés. Jacques.

Jacques M. Posted - Oct 03 2019 : 09:02:50 AM
And an early Fed 1b, here too:


The special metallurgy of the finder was made for c. 2500 cameras (just after the "Leica II like" one, and before the common Fed type):


Jacques M. Posted - Oct 03 2019 : 08:55:00 AM

A 48 Kiev II, well visible with its Jena black patch under the selftimer.


But it contains too Dresden parts, for example the speed box.


cedricfan Posted - Jun 23 2019 : 02:15:22 AM
Congrats, APK is a very fine camera!

Best regards,
schyter Posted - Jun 20 2019 : 4:02:58 PM
Zenit APK


Only dead fish follow the stream ...
schyter Posted - Jun 02 2019 : 2:13:07 PM
Mir by KMZ 1960


Only dead fish follow the stream ...
jed Posted - May 18 2019 : 05:22:26 AM

Just got this ;)
The rear viewfinder glass is a special one.



AlexanderK Posted - May 18 2019 : 01:28:57 AM
This model was made for medical purposes. There were two differen models, both came without lens.

Regards, Alexander
treehorn Posted - May 17 2019 : 2:22:53 PM
I found a Kiev IVa without rangefinder, selftimer and Flash-Sync. It came without lens, but the mount shows significant signs of use, especially at the outer bayonet.
The serial number is 6001343, that fits quite well to these here: http://www.novacon.com.br/asquini1/kiev2.htm




Fred_L Posted - Apr 28 2019 : 12:58:08 PM
Hi all!!

Just arrived here!! It is my first one!!
Seems to be the second verion with viewfinder..


http://www.ussrphoto.com/UserContent2/2842019_Totchka-01 LD.jpg

http://www.ussrphoto.com/UserContent2/2842019_Totchka-02 LD.jpg

http://www.ussrphoto.com/UserContent2/2842019_Totchka-03 LD.jpg

http://www.ussrphoto.com/UserContent2/2842019_Totchka-04 LD.jpg

http://www.ussrphoto.com/UserContent2/2842019_Totchka-05 LD.jpg

levonsa Posted - Mar 26 2019 : 6:31:06 PM
Ulrich thank you!
uwittehh Posted - Mar 26 2019 : 5:53:11 PM
New in my collection, the Jena Contax from 1950 (serial number 27858). Together with it's sister a 1951 KIEV II. The Contax comes with a rare Carl Zeiss Jena marked Torpedo finder and a Sonnar 4/135 from July 1949.


uwittehh Posted - Mar 26 2019 : 5:25:56 PM

I own 3 Jena Contax now, and two of them looked as they were used over the years.


uwittehh Posted - Mar 26 2019 : 5:24:40 PM

this is a really rare Jena Contax! Congratulations to that find.


Jacques M. Posted - Mar 26 2019 : 4:18:49 PM

Of course, Alexey. Thanks!
As new, like many other Jena Contaxes...
levonsa Posted - Mar 26 2019 : 12:36:44 PM
Jacques hi
If you would be interested to see additional photos?!









Jacques M. Posted - Mar 26 2019 : 10:28:18 AM
A beautiful and rare version of the Jena Contax!
The beige one is much more popular (and numerous) with probably aroud 20 samples made.
I have 10 Jena Contaxes "half black" in my data, like this one, and one or two all black, including the Sonnar...

To go back to this s/n 28081 (thanks, Alexey!), another interesting thing is the Sonnar already engraved 50mm. An late series for this f2 Jena Sonnar, delivered in january 1951 and which should always be engraved in cm by the Thiele! The date is interesting: it could give a good idea for the mounting of this camera.

Amitiés. Jacques.
treehorn Posted - Mar 26 2019 : 08:08:41 AM
Originally posted by levonsa

I came across an interesting camera in my opinion ....

A black Jena-Contax - all alarm bells are ringing. My first thought was that it has to be a fake, especially considering the good shape of the camera. But at a closer look many things seems to fit:
- black cover of self-timer
- groove in focus wheel
- frame counter looks more Zeiss than Arsenal style
- accessory shoe has Jena style

According to Bernd K. Otto ("Von der Carl Zeiss Jena-Contax zur Kiev", PhotoDeal 34, 2001) there have been some samples of the Jena Contax in creme and black. They were presented at the 1950 fair in Leipzig with serial numbers 27801-28100. That would fit too.

treehorn Posted - Mar 26 2019 : 05:00:34 AM
Originally posted by AlexanderK

Thank you, treehorn.
This explanation seems more plausible to me than “tropical” or “topographic”. Otherwise serial number of the camera has 'T' as well and on the lens with russian inscription I would expect 'П' (просветленный), but not 'T'.

Sorry Alexander, that was a misunderstanding. To make it clear: the "T" on the Kiev (lens and body) has nothing in common with the "T" on the Zeiss lenses. The equivalent to the Zeiss "T" is the "П" you've mentioned.
SteveA Posted - Mar 26 2019 : 04:02:16 AM
Looks like a Jena Contax? Serial number appears like a late model, bears all the traits of one looking at images in Minoru Sasakis 'Contax to Kiev'. Black painted surround is interesting, any sign of chrome plating on the back of the surround? Looks like and early 1950's lens serial number though...
levonsa Posted - Mar 25 2019 : 5:47:37 PM
I came across an interesting camera in my opinion ....



AlexanderK Posted - Mar 25 2019 : 4:34:55 PM
Thank you, treehorn.
This explanation seems more plausible to me than “tropical” or “topographic”. Otherwise serial number of the camera has 'T' as well and on the lens with russian inscription I would expect 'П' (просветленный), but not 'T'.
treehorn Posted - Mar 25 2019 : 03:05:35 AM
The Soviet lenses in the 1950ies do have a red "П" to indicate a single coating.

"T" on Zeiss lenses indicates a single coating, invented by Alexander Smakula (born in the Ukraine) for Zeiss in 1935. They used it until 1945 mostly for military optics. In 1940 the first Biogon and Sonnar Optics for the Contax Rangefinder with a "T"-coating were shown. By 1950 all Zeiss lenses were coated and marked with the red "T". Later they introduced the "T*" multi-coating.

"T" stands for "transparency optics", in Russian "просветление оптики" (pronounced "prosvetlenie optiki" and meaning a "better shining-through of optics".
More information: https://lenspire.zeiss.com/photo/app/uploads/2018/12/en_About-the-reduction-of-reflections-of-camera-lenses.pdf
cedricfan Posted - Mar 24 2019 : 11:29:38 PM
Did "T" have a different meaning on Zeiss, like multicoated?
I am sure I have seen it on some lens just can't remember which...

Best regards,
AlexanderK Posted - Mar 24 2019 : 3:35:16 PM
OK, thanks for explanation.

Regards, Alexander
Vlad Posted - Mar 24 2019 : 3:22:20 PM
Nice find! Alexander, see here http://ussrphoto.com/Forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=3073
jed Posted - Mar 24 2019 : 3:21:55 PM
Hello Alexander,

In the wiki only 3 cameras are listed. Now we have 5...
I own one 🙂
Vlad said a friend told him the camera was designed to take pictures from a plane. ´Topographical' camera : T.
AlexanderK Posted - Mar 24 2019 : 3:06:19 PM
Originally posted by jed

Congratulations ! Very rare cameras.

why rare? What does this "T" mean?

Regards, Alexander
jed Posted - Mar 24 2019 : 05:56:23 AM
Congratulations ! Very rare cameras. Please post s/n on the wiki.
treehorn Posted - Mar 23 2019 : 5:59:22 PM
I recently bought a Kiev-4A #6603499T with Jupiter-8 #6604340T at ebay. The Jupiter has got a coating that seems to be more blue than comparable lenses.
I was quite lucky to find another Topographical-Kiev (#6113396T) one week later. The second one comes with a ordinary Jupiter-8 from 1963.




AlexanderK Posted - Feb 11 2019 : 12:54:59 AM
Hi Fred,
it is very nice find, but this lens doesn't belong to set. On this place must be a film development spool.

Regards, Alexander
Fred_L Posted - Feb 10 2019 : 1:59:06 PM
Hi All!!

I got this set a few months ago
It seems to be complete?
Your comments are welcome!!







Fred_L Posted - Jan 22 2019 : 02:34:14 AM
Hi all!!!

Some of new cameras arrived at home....

One more caemra with flash sync: Fed Red Flag
2 Yura cameras, probably fakes but we can see the top cover is colored in different grey (mate), especially on 984
One beautifull Fed 1-a


http://www.ussrphoto.com/UserContent2/2212019_Red-Flag_02 BD.jpg

http://www.ussrphoto.com/UserContent2/2212019_Red-Flag_03 BD.jpg

http://www.ussrphoto.com/UserContent2/2212019_Yura-52_01 BD.jpg

http://www.ussrphoto.com/UserContent2/2212019_Yura-52_02 BD.jpg

http://www.ussrphoto.com/UserContent2/2212019_Yura-984_01 BD.jpg

http://www.ussrphoto.com/UserContent2/2212019_Yura-984_02 BD.jpg

http://www.ussrphoto.com/UserContent2/2212019_Fed-1-4413_01 BD.jpg

http://www.ussrphoto.com/UserContent2/2212019_Fed-1-4413_02 BD.jpg

http://www.ussrphoto.com/UserContent2/2212019_Fed-1-4413_03 BD.jpg

http://www.ussrphoto.com/UserContent2/2212019_Fed-1-4413_04 BD.jpg

uwittehh Posted - Nov 08 2018 : 4:41:51 PM
Jacques, thanks. Yes, an original one with all original parts would be nice. But as Altix says "a 47 Kiev with a 47 shutter is a miracle" :-) But even if it is not original, it was a bargain, I've found it in a "Konvolut" of Kiev cameras.


Jacques M. Posted - Nov 07 2018 : 05:42:17 AM

Congrats, Ulrich.
A 47 Kiev is always a rare camera, even if it's not completely original...
I own a '47 one too, repaired (or remounted) with a 1949 shutter box. The rest is original and was seen by Altix too.

Amitiés. Jacques.
uwittehh Posted - Nov 03 2018 : 5:23:05 PM
Found this the last time. It's a mixure of a 1947 Kiev and a 1949 one and some later parts. After a discussion with altix it has a 1947 body shell and rangefinder parts and a 1949 shutter and lens. There are name markings with pencil under the film pressure plate and inside the top cover. The front mask must be later, early fifties.
The history of this camera would be interesting but I know nothing about it.


Alfa2 Posted - Oct 19 2018 : 4:02:54 PM
Red Flag is always Red Flag. A very rare thing.
Jacques M. Posted - Oct 18 2018 : 2:28:42 PM

Thanks, Alfa.
S/n 200977. Nothing strange about that camera, except an extra part inside the bottom plate. Probably not important, but I will show that in a separate thread.
Amitiés. Jacques.
Alfa2 Posted - Oct 18 2018 : 11:31:56 AM
Congratulation Jacques. Which S/N ?
Jacques M. Posted - Oct 17 2018 : 10:53:33 AM
Bravo, Juhani!
To Vlad and Alexander: thanks for these rare Kiev 19M preseries...

Here, a Red Flag: I had the chance to get it at auction at a bargain price...


Amitiés. Jacques.

Vlad Posted - Oct 15 2018 : 1:31:53 PM
quite interesting, first time I see sync sockets installed on these!

Alexander, nice find! These preseries are quite hard to get! Mine is a bit different with silkscreened logo:


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