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Jacques M.
France
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 Posted - Apr 03 2012 : 10:18:41 AM
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A Fed S d type more with a wartime Sonnar lens (not original).
http://www.ussrphoto.com/UserContent/342012_Fed S 164433 001.jpg
Amitiés. Jacques.
PS:no way to know more about that strange thing in your Fed meter, Fred?
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Edited by - Jacques M. on Apr 03 2012 10:38:04 AM |
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Fred_L
France
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Posted - Apr 03 2012 : 12:34:18 PM
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Hi Jacques
No , No nexs about my meter
It seems to be original, but so strange....
All the best
Fred |
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Brian
USA
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Posted - Apr 07 2012 : 7:19:47 PM
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A 1952 KMZ Jupiter-12, with Zeiss Serial Number on the rear module.
The focus was way-off, off 2m for a 5m test. Added a 0.2mm shim, luckily the J-8 and J-12 take the same shims.
And verified: the early J-12 in LTM fits on the M8.
No coding, and I do not see any vignetting. |
Edited by - Brian on Apr 07 2012 7:21:58 PM |
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Brian
USA
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Posted - Apr 07 2012 : 7:30:42 PM
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and- a 1950 KMZ Jupiter-3, originally held into it's Contax/Kiev Mount using sewing thread.
The focus was way-off, front-focus problem. No shims to remove. The machining on the mount was off, and the optics wobbled around in it.
The focal length was too short, even for use on a Leica. I moved the rear optics out ~0.2mm and then set the main shim. Took several attempts, but the focus is good across the full range now on the Leica, moved the optics module into a 1956 KMZ LTM mount. Without moving the rear module, the lens could be used from close-up to about 3m.
Close-up at F1.5
This lens looks like it had never been used- I'm thinking it just never worked right. |
Edited by - Brian on Apr 07 2012 9:09:55 PM |
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Brian
USA
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Posted - Apr 08 2012 : 7:11:47 PM
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The J-12 on The Leica M9, 100% crop:
Full image, wide-open at F2.8
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Ulrich W.
uwittehh
Germany
765 Posts
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Posted - Apr 15 2012 : 03:43:39 AM
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Just arrived...
a complete 1956 Zorki 4 set, including box, bag, instruction booklet and matching papers. And it looks and works like new, I just had to change the selftimer that was broken. Winding knob, collar around release button and rewind knob are in Zorki 3C style.
Ulrich
http://fotos.cconin.de |
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Ulrich W.
uwittehh
Germany
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My Collection
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Jacques M.
France
2521 Posts |
Posted - Apr 15 2012 : 10:44:51 AM
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Wonderful pictures, Brian!
I find once more the "bokeh" of my wartime 1,5/5cm Sonnar. 
But my special congrats for all the work...
Jacques. |
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Jacques M.
France
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Alexander K.
AlexanderK
Germany
580 Posts |
Posted - Apr 15 2012 : 11:13:34 AM
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Congratulation, Jacques!
Your number is less, than mine (200600) 
Regards, Alexander |
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Ulrich W.
uwittehh
Germany
765 Posts
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Posted - Apr 16 2012 : 3:35:25 PM
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Jacques and Alexander,
you both are lucky guys. I am looking for a Red Flag for years but there is none around...
Ulrich
http://fotos.cconin.de |
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Alexander K.
AlexanderK
Germany
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Posted - Apr 16 2012 : 4:04:55 PM
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Ulrich, don't worry!
I let you know, if I see one more
Regards, Alexander |
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Vladislav Kern
Vlad
USA
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Posted - Apr 16 2012 : 4:36:13 PM
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Jacques M.
France
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Posted - Apr 17 2012 : 07:14:20 AM
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I would say between 400 and 1000 euros, very roughly...
But the most difficult is to find one. And to be sure it is genuine, which is very difficult as there are not many samples known...
Probably I will open a link about that. I am very curious for example about the yellow colour in the rangefinder...
Of course, I am happy to have mine. I had been looking for for years...
Amitiés. Jacques. |
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Vladislav Kern
Vlad
USA
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Posted - Apr 18 2012 : 7:11:24 PM
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Many thanks for information, Jacques!
Best regards,
Vlad |
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Eric
Robotnik
USA
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Posted - May 07 2012 : 4:58:15 PM
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I got a rather normal Kiev 19 in the mail today. Only cost me 19 bucks + shipping.
As you can see this one was made in 1989, and it has the Quality Seal. (I did not see any others on eBay with the Quality seal.)
The lens has some metalic dust in it, but other than that its nice. Camera works fine.
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Alexander K.
AlexanderK
Germany
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Posted - May 07 2012 : 5:43:04 PM
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Zenit-7 preseries (first version) arrived here (s/n 6800165, lens s/n 000067). It does not work, but looks damn good !
Regards, Alexander |
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Fred_L
France
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Fred_L
France
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Fred_L
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Jacques M.
France
2521 Posts |
Posted - Jun 07 2012 : 04:49:41 AM
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A Fed more arrived yesterday here.
Not so common: it's an early one without accessory shoe.
This one (# 7373) has an ordinary half turn Fed lens, contrarily to my # 7122 which has a one turn one.
http://www.ussrphoto.com/UserContent/762012_1b 001.jpg
Amitiés. Jacques.
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Jacques M.
France
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Posted - Jun 07 2012 : 04:54:55 AM
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Special congratulations for your Sport, Fred! And once more time for your recent TSVVS! 
I will have too to try and buy cameras at auctions...
Amitiés. Jacques. |
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Fred_L
France
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Posted - Jun 07 2012 : 07:48:04 AM
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HI Jacques
Your FED is so nice too....
May be I will have surprises on next weeks..
An Revue Horizont (I got it but as i am out for ten days, I will make pics later....
One more TSVVS...... I am negociating it , and it is nice with all matching numbers...
So we have to wait about 15 days!!!!
Congratulations for your FED!!!
FRED |
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Jacques M.
France
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Posted - Jun 08 2012 : 4:01:59 PM
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Another TSVVS... wow!
Always a 1950 one? Or a 1949?
Eager to see that!
And congratulations!
Amitiés. Jacques.
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Fred_L
France
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Posted - Jun 08 2012 : 4:31:47 PM
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It is a 1950
Body and Base plate are matching, I am sure
I have to wait about one week...to be sure
Fore sure I will give you some news...
Fred
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Ulrich W.
uwittehh
Germany
765 Posts
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Posted - Jun 17 2012 : 4:56:15 PM
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Nice new cameras arrived in this thread :-)
My newest is a like new Leningrad from 1963. It came here with a blocked release button. This must happened very early because it looks as it was never used.
So I disassembled it and found the bug. A lever was gone out of it's position and blocked releasing the shutter.
It has an interesting engraving around the big wind knob which I have never seen before. I think collecting Leningrads could be interesting ...
After cleaning and reassembling it:
The engraving around the winding knob:
I have documented the reassembly, maybe it's interesting for you even it is only in german:
http://fotos.cconin.de/kameras/leningradrepair/index.htm
Ulrich
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Jacques M.
France
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Posted - Jun 18 2012 : 04:56:04 AM
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Happy to see you again, Ulrich, and bravo for this immaculate Leningrad!
The inscription reads "made in USSR", I think?
Amitiés. Jacques. |
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Ulrich W.
uwittehh
Germany
765 Posts
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Posted - Jun 18 2012 : 06:39:21 AM
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Jacques,
I meant I have never seen this engraving on a Leningrad before :-)
Ulrich
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Fred_L
France
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Jacques M.
France
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Posted - Jun 18 2012 : 2:58:53 PM
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Jørgen Kjølsen
CrazyCatman
Denmark
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Posted - Jun 20 2012 : 06:08:55 AM
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Yesterday I got two things for my collection - both rather ordinary:
Fed 2 type C, from 1956 (11188):
And a 1993 Zenit 12XPS Fotosniper (a bit too young for this site as it's "Made in Russia") - unfortuantly without the box as my ES/FS3 has:
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You can call me "Yuri"...
SSSR collections so far:
1956 FED 2 C
1978 Zenit E
1979 Zenit FS-3 Photosniper (ES)
1980 Zenit EM Olympic
1980 Zenit E Olympic
1993 Zenit FS-12-3 Fotosaiper (12XPS)
a Zenit UPA 5M enlarger
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Edited by - CrazyCatman on Jun 20 2012 06:11:28 AM |
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Ulrich W.
uwittehh
Germany
765 Posts
My Collection
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Posted - Jun 20 2012 : 4:49:51 PM
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Fred,
great, 2 TSVVS's :-) I wonder if we are the only guys who collect them :-D
Ulrich
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Ulrich W.
uwittehh
Germany
765 Posts
My Collection
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Posted - Jun 20 2012 : 4:56:20 PM
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Arrived 2 days ago... A like new KIEV III from 1953 with DIN engraving and Zorki ZK lens from 1950. It seems to be a real combination of camera and lens (why should someone change the lens to a ZK-lens?). But there are 3 years difference between camera and lens date. Could it be that the soviets put the old lenses on the first with old Contax parts made KIEV III? I have not seen this combination before.
Here are some pics, it looks stunning in my eyes:
Ulrich
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Ulrich W.
uwittehh
Germany
765 Posts
My Collection
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Posted - Jun 20 2012 : 5:00:06 PM
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Fred, the Horizont Revue is interesting. Mine has number 6903353 so only 600 numbers away from yours.
Ulrich
http://fotos.cconin.de |
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Ulrich W.
uwittehh
Germany
765 Posts
My Collection
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Posted - Jun 20 2012 : 5:04:41 PM
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Jørgen,
nice camera finds. I hope that you have enough room in your closet for the next at least 50 soviet cameras you WILL buy
Ulrich
http://fotos.cconin.de |
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Jørgen Kjølsen
CrazyCatman
Denmark
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My Collection
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Posted - Jun 20 2012 : 5:25:28 PM
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bquote:
Originally posted by uwittehh
Jørgen,
nice camera finds. I hope that you have enough room in your closet for the next at least 50 soviet cameras you WILL buy
Ulrich
http://fotos.cconin.de
Hi Ulrich,
I am running out of space on my camera shelf, even tho I am only onto 6 Sovjet cameras; one of them is at my "museum" shelf, as it's not working atm - and my oldest PhotoSniper is in it's box under the shelf - so those two doesn't take space - but my extra lenses and other cameras takes alot of space - but the newest Fotosniper does take most space, as I chosed to put it together as I don't have a box for it - then I want people to see how cool it looks!
But I will have more ;)
I even started to get a French photographer into the Sovjet cameras too! He started to ask about my Zenit EM, because he was thinking of ordering a 412, in the end he ordered it - and also bought a Zenit E with an I-50 "pancake" lens - and now is looking for a Fed as well.
I don't know what my next Sovjet should be, but I am going back to Sankt-Peterburg soon, so if I will find something good I will get that. I already have two enlarger lens waiting for me as I needed to change the one on my Zenit UPA-5 because of fungus, so I am back to use that giant Meopta that I wanted to give a vacation because of the neat size of the UPA.
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You can call me "Yuri"...
SSSR collections so far:
1956 FED 2 C
1978 Zenit E
1979 Zenit FS-3 Photosniper (ES)
1980 Zenit EM Olympic
1980 Zenit E Olympic
1993 Zenit FS-12-3 Fotosaiper (12XPS)
a Zenit UPA 5M enlarger
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Edited by - CrazyCatman on Jun 20 2012 5:26:24 PM |
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Juhani Halmeenmaki
cedricfan
Finland
993 Posts
My Collection
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Posted - Jun 20 2012 : 11:12:07 PM
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quote:
Originally posted by uwittehh
Fred,
great, 2 TSVVS's :-) I wonder if we are the only guys who collect them :-D
Ulrich
http://fotos.cconin.de
I would say that there is many reasons why it is so many here.
TSVVS is so extreme, that not many know about it. There has been so much fakes, that many may even take all of them as fakes. As a matter of fact not even here it is certain where it was made! So the real market may be very small, unless you sell in the web and have a good description & reputation.
BTW: I also want one, and even a fake would be OK in my vitrine, as here in Finland only a handful know about TSVVS existence, and only I would know it as a fake
Best regards,
Juhani |
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Fred_L
France
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Posted - Jun 21 2012 : 04:03:20 AM
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Hi All
I agree with Juhani....We all know here what is a TSVVS...
But, what is sure, is that people who have sold me the cameras knew very well the value and the rarity..... So we are not alone...
The most surprising this year in Bievres was these 2 cameras to sell. It was first year I see TSVVS in Bièvres!
Sellers were both Italian.
One is a collector and has made an article in Leica magazine in 1997 about camera I bought him. I have to copy this article and to put it in the wiki.
Second is also an Italian guy , and I think Aidas knows him well as he has bought him some rare cameras in the past.
I bought this second camera after Bievres.
I think and hope these 2 cameras are not fakes...Princelle told me they are genuine.... But who could be sure???????
Fred |
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Fred_L
France
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Ulrich W.
uwittehh
Germany
765 Posts
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Posted - Jun 21 2012 : 4:15:06 PM
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Juhani,
yes it's an extreme camera that nobody really knows about. I was a bit surprised how many people here have on (or more...). But thinking about it we are only a handfull of guys here who collect them and so we have seen only about 2 or 3 percent of them at all. As we know about 1000 were made and I think that a lot (most of them) are existing until today (because it's a camera made for special purposes).
Btw. I have never heard of a fake of it or seen one (neither in real nor in pictures). I have only read that they may exist :-)
Ulrich
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Jacques M.
France
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Posted - Jun 22 2012 : 10:24:24 AM
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Thanks, Fred, for the article.
About fakes, I saw one some years ago at Bièvres. Easy to recognize because of the window of the viewfinder. Too, it was much lighter than a real TSVVS: the shell was made of aluminium and not brass. Probably a Fed...
The TSVVS really is a difficult camera to fake...
Amitiés. Jacques. |
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Jacques M.
France
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Posted - Jul 05 2012 : 10:52:09 AM
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Always about TSVVS fakes, there is one in the JLP, 2nd edition, p. 100. On the picture, it has a Fed viewfinder window. The other one on the same picture seems genuine.
Now, my 1950 TSVVS, just arrived. I already had the 1949 one (background).
http://www.ussrphoto.com/UserContent/572012_TSVVS 003.jpg
Amitiés. Jacques. |
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Alexander K.
AlexanderK
Germany
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Posted - Jul 05 2012 : 4:01:40 PM
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Congratulation, Jacques!
Very nice cameras. They seem not being in use, just from the photo-shop shelf .
Which serial number do they have? My cameras are 292 (1949) und 714 (1950)
Regards, Alexander |
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Ulrich W.
uwittehh
Germany
765 Posts
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Posted - Jul 05 2012 : 4:50:29 PM
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Jacques, congratulation from me too!
Interesting that both of your TSVVS have the "Carl Zeiss Jena" lens cap. Mine has it too.
Ulrich
http://fotos.cconin.de |
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Jacques M.
France
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Posted - Jul 06 2012 : 03:55:31 AM
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Thanks, Ulrich and Alexander.
Serial numbers: 264 (1949) and 503 (1950). Both are in very good condition. But all the TSVVS I know are in the same excellent condition: hardly used.
I am going to open a special thread about these cameras: some details like the lens caps are interesting.
Amitiés. Jacques.
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Fred_L
France
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Alexander K.
AlexanderK
Germany
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Posted - Jul 11 2012 : 5:47:29 PM
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Hello Fred,
very nice cameras, but I think, that the number on the lens of your Sport camera does not match with the camera.
Cameras with such low number have usually three screws, and your camera has only one. Very strange...
Regards, Alexander |
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Fred_L
France
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Posted - Jul 12 2012 : 02:37:20 AM
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Hello Alexander
Yes I agree, it is strange..
Same for the front panel..seems to be a later one...
Maybe it is a camera that has been rebuilt from parts?
Lens itself seems to be original (not fake)..
Fred |
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Jacques M.
France
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Posted - Jul 12 2012 : 06:27:41 AM
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A Sport is always a desirable camera for a collector, even if it was partially rebuilt.
And really, I think a Sport is impossible to fake.
So, congratulations, Fred!
I think I will have mine too. A day... when I will be tired of extra-USSR cameras!
Amitiés. Jacques. |
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