Home | Profile | Register | Active Topics | Members | Search | FAQ
Username:
Password:
Save Password
Forgot your Password?


 All Forums
 General Discussion
 Collectors and Users Open Forum
 Sputnik Prototype/Space camera
 New Topic
 Reply to Topic
 Printer Friendly
Author Previous Topic Topic Next Topic  

Vladislav Kern
Vlad

USA
4248 Posts
My Collection

Posted - Jul 28 2014 :  8:06:18 PM  Show Profile  Visit Vlad's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Not sure whether we discussed this camera before, what do you guys think this is?


http://www.ussrphoto.com/UserContent/2872014_2399-3.jpg


http://www.ussrphoto.com/UserContent/2872014_2399-2.jpg


http://www.ussrphoto.com/UserContent/2872014_2399-1.jpg

Being offered on eBay not for $47,000

Guido Studer
Guido
Switzerland
362 Posts
My Collection

Posted - Jul 31 2014 :  3:40:47 PM  Show Profile  Visit Guido's Homepage  Reply with Quote

Hello Vlad

I don't know if we had talk about this camera from Boris in the past, but it's on eBay since longer time IIRC.

Well, it's a nice camera but the first time i've seen it I wonder why it should be a "space camera" ?! I think a stereo camera makes a lot of sense if objects pictured with are in different distances. But if all objects are - in a photographic sense - in the same distance (ie. infinite) like in space, I really don't see an advantage of having two identical (!) "stereo" pictures.

If you take a look at other space cameras you can see that there are big knobs and oversized manual controls. Such cameras should be usable with gloves.

Best wishes - Guido
Go to Top of Page
Jacques M.
France
2593 Posts
Posted - Aug 01 2014 :  03:09:31 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Very interesting!
The three lenses for stereo photos and viewfinder are coupled to have an absolute precision, like on the original Sputnik. But here, it seems that the three lenses are the same.

Very well made. A topographic camera for the Army? A scientific camera for the Moon?

Jacques.

Edited by - Jacques M. on Aug 01 2014 05:34:14 AM
Go to Top of Page

Vladislav Kern
Vlad
USA
4248 Posts
My Collection

Posted - Aug 01 2014 :  3:43:33 PM  Show Profile  Visit Vlad's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Guido,

I thought the exact same thing about the size of the knobs and I also see some time discrepancy: the Sputnik camera was made in 1955 and if this is from 1974-1975 as the description on eBay claims, it cannot be a prototype for Sputnik, but maybe rather for Sputnik-2.. but we see the prototype for Sputnik-2 in 1958 Brussels world fair brochure (http://www.sovietcams.com/index.php?487737996), so the timeline is off again. I don't think it has anything to do with the main Sputnik line of cameras.

Also it uses the new style Triplet-22 lens found in Lubitel-166 from 1976 which is around the correct time frame so the theory that it's some kind of prototype is plausible, but a plastic camera for space program? I don't think so..



http://www.ebay.com/itm/Lomo-Stereo-Sputnik-Prototype-space-camera-/371110266039?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item5667e544b7
Go to Top of Page

Guido Studer
Guido
Switzerland
362 Posts
My Collection

Posted - Aug 01 2014 :  5:20:53 PM  Show Profile  Visit Guido's Homepage  Reply with Quote

Hello Vlad

Well I didn't looked at details but all you say seems to be good points to me. And the dates indicate that's one century too late for the "race to the moon".

The reflex finder by the way looks not so optimal for the use with a helmet in space or in a space craft.

And yes, a plastic camera for space ... *LOL* - But okay, I can't say from the pictures if it's a plastic body or not. My second impression say's it could be a metall body. But not shure about this.

An other question is why the camera is so much wider than a normal Sputnik. Maybe it was intendet to use longer film (longer than conventional 120/220 film). But when I look to the pictures I can't say anything more about this. What do you think?

Best wishes - Guido

Go to Top of Page

Vladislav Kern
Vlad
USA
4248 Posts
My Collection

Posted - Aug 01 2014 :  6:09:20 PM  Show Profile  Visit Vlad's Homepage  Reply with Quote
I don't think the lenses spaced wider apart than in Sputnik, it's just in Sputnik's design they did a smart thing, they placed the spools in the blind spots of the film chamber and this one is completely counter-intuitive because they brought the spools out thus making the camera body very wide. It almost seems to me this is some kind of home-made variation because it's a step backwards in the design..

See how they're hiding the spools in the front corners?

http://www.ussrphoto.com/UserContent/182014_spudrefl2.jpg
Go to Top of Page

Vladislav Kern
Vlad
USA
4248 Posts
My Collection

Posted - Aug 01 2014 :  6:17:24 PM  Show Profile  Visit Vlad's Homepage  Reply with Quote
I guess my memory is going bad because I just found the old thread about this camera

http://ussrphoto.com/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=2275
Go to Top of Page
Chriistopher Gray
Chrispi49
Switzerland
4 Posts
Posted - Aug 19 2014 :  05:07:06 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Looks more like an attempt to copy a 3D World TL 120 than a Sputnik!
Go to Top of Page
  Previous Topic Topic Next Topic  
 New Topic
 Reply to Topic
 Printer Friendly
Jump To:
USSRPhoto.com Forums © USSRPhoto.com Go To Top Of Page
Snitz Forums 2000
Google