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| Michel |
Posted - Sep 22 2009 : 12:30:47 PM
Hi Vlad,
When you shall have time to loose, could you tell me what this donative text says??
Thanks again and again !
Michel.
http://www.ussrphoto.com/UserContent/2292009_Camera-Kiev.jpg
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| Zoom |
Posted - Oct 17 2009 : 5:36:01 PM
quote:
Originally posted by okynek
Probably because ÄÂÔ(DVF) stands for Äàëüíå Âîñòî÷íûé Ôëîò - Far-East Fleet or Pacific Ocean Fleet created way before WWII.
Nope. The Pacific Ocean Fleet (TOF) had only one name (was created in 1932 as I remember).
It was the "Dal'nevostochnij front (DVF)", but not a fleet. |
| mermoz37 |
Posted - Oct 17 2009 : 04:35:11 AM
OK, thanks very much to you !
I am so gratefull as I will put your text inside the camera on my shelves to explain it to my friends.
(I still possess same item about 1940 in Baltic sea , engraved on back side camera on a silver plate.)
Alain
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| okynek |
Posted - Oct 16 2009 : 3:27:02 PM
<quote>But I don't understand how to correlate the "XX anniversary" (from what year? 1940? So: 1960?) and the "commissar"... </quote>
Probably because ÄÂÔ(DVF) stands for Äàëüíå Âîñòî÷íûé Ôëîò - Far-East Fleet or Pacific Ocean Fleet created way before WWII. |
| Vlad |
Posted - Oct 16 2009 : 12:28:57 PM
Thank you! |
| Zoom |
Posted - Oct 16 2009 : 11:53:01 AM
quote:
Originally posted by Vlad
".. on 20th anniversary of DVF..."
Äóíàéñêàÿ âîåííàÿ ôëîòèëèÿ -- Danubian Military Flotilla.
The same acronym had Dnieper Military Flotilla.
See this flotillas history there: http://ussrfleet.1939-45.ru/flotilii.php
P.S. But I don't understand how to correlate the "XX anniversary" (from what year? 1940? So: 1960?) and the "commissar"... "Íàðîäíûé êîìèññàðèàò ÂÌÔ ÑÑÑÐ" (People's Commissoriat of VMF of USSR) was exist from 1937 to 1946 years... |
| Vlad |
Posted - Oct 16 2009 : 09:31:33 AM
"To Captain of Second Rank Stepanov S.S. on 20th anniversary of DVF (_____ Military Fleet - (not sure what first letter "D" stands for maybe someone can help)) for achieved successes in battlefield and political training. From the assistant people's commissioner of VMF(Military Sea Fleet) of USSR."
Very cool!
Vlad. |
| mermoz37 |
Posted - Oct 16 2009 : 03:40:38 AM
please ,
which one (Vlad ?) had some free time to translate this text ?
in advance , thanks.
Alain
http://www.ussrphoto.com/UserContent/16102009_translation.jpg
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| cedricfan |
Posted - Oct 01 2009 : 1:36:12 PM
Strange and very annoying for me who wants to know history!
And hopefully Russian history writing & telling does not get biased again like some have said might be happening. In history we must get all sides opinion to make one true story!
Best regards,
Juhani |
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Posted - Oct 01 2009 : 12:56:29 PM
quote:
Originally posted by cedricfan
Getting OT but in the 70ies Finnish history teaching stopped somewhere in the early 1900. ...
How much I have understood from a short studying of this problem, in Europe the world modern history is not studied. It is strange... |
| cedricfan |
Posted - Oct 01 2009 : 09:33:33 AM
Getting OT but in the 70ies Finnish history teaching stopped somewhere in the early 1900. People who wrote history books forgot that we childrefn did not know that time, or the writers did not want to write about that period...
So even if I was in school for 12 years I know much less than many others!
Best regards,
Juhani |
| Zoom |
Posted - Oct 01 2009 : 05:34:37 AM
quote:
Originally posted by Michel
I spent only two months at school.
So…
So, you do not have an elementary education? Strange, after all you are able to read and write... 8) |
| Michel |
Posted - Sep 30 2009 : 1:34:56 PM
I spent only two months at school.
So… |
| Zoom |
Posted - Sep 30 2009 : 1:02:58 PM
quote:
Originally posted by Michel
I'm not a historian, as you are.
;) Am not a historian too, we learnt this at school.... |
| Michel |
Posted - Sep 29 2009 : 1:32:38 PM
OK, Zoom.
I'm not a historian, as you are. |
| Zoom |
Posted - Sep 29 2009 : 12:30:40 PM
quote:
Originally posted by Michel
"It was a part of WWII. It started in June 22, 1941 and ended May 9, 1945."
That's what I said…
Nope... ;) You said: "I should say between "Barbarossa" in june 1941 and the end of WWII ?"...
The end of WWII was September 2, 1945... |
| Michel |
Posted - Sep 29 2009 : 12:22:59 PM
…and for french people
(… et pour les francophones :)
http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Front_de_l%27Est_%28Seconde_Guerre_mondiale%29 |
| Michel |
Posted - Sep 29 2009 : 12:17:14 PM
For english speaking members, see here :
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eastern_Front_%28World_War_II%29
and there :
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Patriotic_War_%28term%29
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| Michel |
Posted - Sep 29 2009 : 12:05:58 PM
"It was a part of WWII. It started in June 22, 1941 and ended May 9, 1945."
That's what I said… |
| Zoom |
Posted - Sep 29 2009 : 10:35:48 AM
quote:
Originally posted by mermoz37
Hi zoom,
please ...what's the difference  ?.
Alain
WWII was a world war. It started in September 1, 1939* and ended in September 2, 1945**.
*) -- Some historians date its beginning 1938 or even 1937 (see the "Lugouqiao Incident").
**) -- Btw., since Japan has not signed with Russia the peace treaty, that, the WWII as though still proceeds till now?.. ;)
The Great Patriotic War ( http://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%92%D0%B5%D0%BB%D0%B8%D0%BA%D0%B0%D1%8F_%D0%9E%D1%82%D0%B5%D1%87%D0%B5%D1%81%D1%82%D0%B2%D0%B5%D0%BD%D0%BD%D0%B0%D1%8F_%D0%B2%D0%BE%D0%B9%D0%BD%D0%B0 ) was a war between USSR and the incorporated forces of continental Europe, led by Nazi Germany. It was a part of WWII. It started in June 22, 1941 and ended May 9, 1945. |
| Michel |
Posted - Sep 29 2009 : 04:02:28 AM
I should say between "Barbarossa" in june 1941 and the end of WWII ?
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| mermoz37 |
Posted - Sep 29 2009 : 03:52:16 AM
Hi zoom,
please ...what's the difference ?.
Alain |
| Zoom |
Posted - Sep 28 2009 : 09:22:46 AM
quote:
Originally posted by Vlad
...in the day of 20th anniversary of Victory (WWII)...
Strictly speaking, the 20th anniversary of Victory, but not in the Second World War. In the Great Patriotic War (1941--1945). |
| Michel |
Posted - Sep 26 2009 : 03:54:10 AM
Thanks, Zoom. |
| Zoom |
Posted - Sep 25 2009 : 10:21:05 AM
quote:
Originally posted by Vlad
Trest Proletarskugol(some kind of coal mining organization?? )
Proletarskugol' trust in Donetsk, Ukraine (after 1975 it stay a part of the Donetskugol' coal-mining complex).
Btw., Donetsk was founded in 1869 by a Welsh businessman, John Hughes... ;) |
| Michel |
Posted - Sep 23 2009 : 04:58:42 AM
Hi Vlad and SnuSmu,
Thanks a lot for your translation.
Sincerly,
Michel. |
| SnuSmu |
Posted - Sep 23 2009 : 03:39:13 AM
"ÈÒÐ" stands for engineering-technical staff |
| Vlad |
Posted - Sep 22 2009 : 1:06:31 PM
Hello Michel,
it says L.K. Klimenko in the day of 20th anniversary of Victory (WWII) from ITR Trest Proletarskugol(some kind of coal mining organization?? )
Cheers,
Vlad |
