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| jed |
Posted - Sep 06 2016 : 4:30:23 PM
Hi,
New addition to my Kiev collection, a Kiev 4 "T" camera. Both camera and lens they both have s/n with "T". Lens was already known but first time I got a camera like that one. See,
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| Jacques M. |
Posted - Sep 22 2016 : 05:34:41 AM
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Originally posted by jed
Hi,
Jupiter 8m T is 122 g
Jupiter 8M is 129 g
With the mount, I suppose? My measures were without anything. |
| jed |
Posted - Sep 22 2016 : 03:51:42 AM
Hi,
Jupiter 8m T is 122 g
Jupiter 8M is 129 g
PS : Pierre you're welcome if you like to see my Kiev collection ;) |
| Jacques M. |
Posted - Sep 17 2016 : 04:47:16 AM
Interesting, these screws. On my Kievs, they are always black painted.
Are there other visible differences, if you compare with your other numerous Kievs, Jed?
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| Moxies |
Posted - Sep 16 2016 : 5:24:27 PM
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Originally posted by jed
Lens coating in comparison with another J8M :
Pierre, I believe you're located in Paris. I may show the lens to you If needed 
I fear I won't be usefull, I'm not specialist of those rangefinder lenses. But the idea to meet is good, maybe to show each other interestings things . But again, I have few Kiev and lenses to mount on them 
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| jed |
Posted - Sep 16 2016 : 4:08:44 PM
Hi Jacques,
No visible differences. Will tell about the weight tomorrow ;) |
| Jacques M. |
Posted - Sep 16 2016 : 3:40:00 PM
If you compare your two 8M lenses, Jean, are there visible differences concerning the dimensions? The weight?
Except for the coating, of course! |
| jed |
Posted - Sep 16 2016 : 2:54:13 PM
Some screws aren't painted in black, quite uncommon.
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| jed |
Posted - Sep 16 2016 : 2:48:40 PM
Lens coating in comparison with another J8M :
Pierre, I believe you're located in Paris. I may show the lens to you If needed |
| Jacques M. |
Posted - Sep 16 2016 : 11:51:49 AM
I have just found 66g for a 1963 jup 8 and 82g for a 1976 8M, in the same condition as Jed's picts. But probably, it does not mean much: these two lenses are not of the same generation.
Anyway, when I compare them, the dimensions are the same. Only the coatings are really different. And there is on my 8M the same protecting ring as on Jed's one. This ring doesn't exist on the Jup 8.
It's all I can say...
Amitiés. Jacques. |
| Moxies |
Posted - Sep 16 2016 : 10:07:44 AM
So how is it compared to another 8M?
What about weight? It could tell something if weight is different between T and non-T (other metal used) |
| jed |
Posted - Sep 15 2016 : 2:22:54 PM
Well It seems that I was wrong :( I've made my comparison with the old Jupiter 8 - My lens is from 1964 so 8M |
| jed |
Posted - Sep 15 2016 : 12:37:15 PM
test here :
https://www.flickr.com/photos/31745579@N04/29666061296/in/dateposted-public/ |
| Jacques M. |
Posted - Sep 15 2016 : 12:05:16 PM
Amazing!
Really, it seems that the rear part is bigger than on the normal Jup 8... Would they have put a triplet instead of a doublet?
If possible, could you make a photo comparison between your "T" and a non "T"?
Finally, does this lens work?
Thanks, Jed! |
| jed |
Posted - Sep 14 2016 : 1:26:24 PM
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| jed |
Posted - Sep 14 2016 : 1:25:30 PM
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| jed |
Posted - Sep 14 2016 : 1:24:32 PM
Enjoy !!!!!
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| jed |
Posted - Sep 14 2016 : 1:20:51 PM
Got the camera today !
Great news : lens is different !
It seems that the lens was reformulated (1 element added ?) |
| jed |
Posted - Sep 13 2016 : 09:09:13 AM
Sometimes checking Kiev serial numbers on ebay auctions is not a waste of time ;) |
| Jacques M. |
Posted - Sep 13 2016 : 07:07:38 AM
First time I see that. It would be interested what what exactly changed for these "T" cameras and Jups.
Congrats, Jed, you are the best!
Amitiés. Jacques. |
| Moxies |
Posted - Sep 12 2016 : 5:29:04 PM
Interesting why they used Kiev-4 for topographical purpose, when usualy was used AFA camera with dedicated lenses on large format film. |
| Vlad |
Posted - Sep 12 2016 : 3:16:02 PM
Thank you Jed! I've fixed the image, you uploaded as file, you need to upload it as "image" in order for it to show up.
Cheers,
Vlad |
| jed |
Posted - Sep 07 2016 : 4:18:03 PM
I've added the camera in the wiki http://ussrphoto.com/Wiki/default.asp?WikiCatID=20&ParentID=1&ContentID=1663&Item=Kiev+4+%26quot%3BTopographical%26quot%3B
No text, yet.
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| Vlad |
Posted - Sep 07 2016 : 3:49:02 PM
Yes, from what I understand it is very rare indeed, congratulations!
Cheers,
Vlad |
| jed |
Posted - Sep 07 2016 : 3:44:23 PM
Thanks lots Vlad ! Nice to find a very rare camera.
Best,
Jean |
| Vlad |
Posted - Sep 07 2016 : 12:25:42 PM
Actually I have some new information regarding this from Ilya Stolyar. A reliable source connected to Arsenal had told him that this is a Topographical and not a tropical camera/lens made to be used from an airplane.
While it may stand for "Tropical" for KMZ production, for Arsenal it's "Topographical".
Cheers,
Vlad |
| Vlad |
Posted - Sep 07 2016 : 09:49:00 AM
Also see here:
http://ussrphoto.com/Forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=1246
Vlad |
| jed |
Posted - Sep 07 2016 : 09:42:48 AM
Hi Vlad !
Thanks. So a tropical Kiev 4 was released by Arsenal. Will add the camera in the wiki !
Jed |
| Vlad |
Posted - Sep 07 2016 : 09:10:33 AM
This is a Tropical version on the lens, it's made with humidity resistant materials and sealing.
Vlad |
| jed |
Posted - Sep 07 2016 : 09:02:06 AM
Hi,
I don't know....
LTM Jupiter 8 can be found with s/n "T". Very uncommon.
First time I see a Kiev camera with that letter plus matching lens.
Best, |
| Alfa2 |
Posted - Sep 07 2016 : 08:53:09 AM
What is the difference between lens/camera with and without "T" ?
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