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| cedricfan |
Posted - Feb 04 2008 : 2:17:08 PM
This camera was a topic here some weeks ago: the only fake Zenit?
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| Zoom |
Posted - Feb 08 2008 : 06:17:57 AM
quote:
Originally posted by Luiz Paracampo
Do you know BMA?
http://www.bma.com.br/
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| Luiz Paracampo |
Posted - Feb 07 2008 : 4:27:42 PM
posted by Zoom:
By BMA? LOL...
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Do you know BMA? |
| Zoom |
Posted - Feb 06 2008 : 5:51:16 PM
quote:
Originally posted by Luiz Paracampo
Some of these cameras has its bottom engaved:
"Produzido no Brasil por BMA Industria Fotografica"
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This is a lie.
By BMA? LOL...
quote:
Originally posted by okynek
...There is another example :
Zeniton? Wow! Nice name... ;) (Strongly: not an illegal...) |
| okynek |
Posted - Feb 06 2008 : 5:24:16 PM
So they made fake cntrobanda 
Only for this this camera deserved place in collection!!! 
There is another example :
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| Luiz Paracampo |
Posted - Feb 05 2008 : 2:56:34 PM
So it was Brazil where these SLR Seagulls were named Zenit?
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Some of these cameras has its bottom engaved:
"Produzido no Brasil por BMA Industria Fotografica"
(Made in Brazil by BMA Photo industry)
This is a lie Really they changed the plastic bottom of the camera by another one made from black Poliestirene (low quality plastic) instead of (the thin and also breakable) Polietilene (although better) of the top. A real contraband intended not to pay the due taxes. |
| Vlad |
Posted - Feb 05 2008 : 2:40:02 PM
Well that's how I bought this one .. then realized it's Chinese and passed it over to Juhani... decent price for it too...
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| AidasCams |
Posted - Feb 05 2008 : 2:29:06 PM
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Originally posted by okynek
Some time ago I was fighting for camera like this on eBay. I was convinced that it is Russian. It went for something like $100 or more. Was it you, Juhani, who bought it?
Okynek,
I remember that auction very clearly. After the price climbed over $100 I was laughing a lot. The same was with me just few years ago. I was absolutely sure, that this Zenit compact is one more creation of LOMO experiments, so wanted to have one. Just half a year later I was lucky to buy one for $11 plus my first "neautral" feedback from eBay seller, who was very unhonest man indeed ...
Regards,
Aidas |
| cedricfan |
Posted - Feb 05 2008 : 2:27:59 PM
So it was Brazil where these SLR Seagulls were named Zenit?
I have always wondered what was the market area as they seem to pop up anywhere, but not often.
One faint guess was UK but then they would not be this rare. Then I was thinking of Australia as 2nd guess, but even then someone would know more?
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| Luiz Paracampo |
Posted - Feb 05 2008 : 2:01:14 PM
In South America, mainly in Brazil there were sold also the models DF-2 and DF-2M this last one has a LED indicator TTL meter Similat to Zenit 12XP but uncoupled to the speed dial. |
| Zoom |
Posted - Feb 05 2008 : 06:34:40 AM
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Originally posted by cedricfan
No, if you weren't ebaying in Finland some years ago
This cost me roughly 30 USD then, so I guess it was a good investment...
See it also there:
http://www.sovietcams.com/index.php?357107369 |
| cedricfan |
Posted - Feb 04 2008 : 11:22:46 PM
No, if you weren't ebaying in Finland some years ago
This cost me roughly 30 USD then, so I guess it was a good investment 
And yes indeed, the Hanimex is alredy there. Plus my name, so I guess I have been extr blind 
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| okynek |
Posted - Feb 04 2008 : 9:00:31 PM
Some time ago I was fighting for camera like this on eBay. I was convinced that it is Russian. It went for something like $100 or more. Was it you, Juhani, who bought it? |
| Zoom |
Posted - Feb 04 2008 : 5:30:09 PM
quote:
Originally posted by cedricfan
...maybe I should include one more "Zenit"?
Already included:
http://www.zenitcamera.com/qa/qa-nonkmz.html#fake |
| cedricfan |
Posted - Feb 04 2008 : 3:45:41 PM
OK, so that page is now more wider than only Zenit-fakes, including even non-illegal ones named similarly to KMZ-production. Whew, hopefully that is more understandable than Russian to me...
Very interesting topic, maybe I should include one more "Zenit"?
My guess is Hanimex, and if we talk about Lieca and Feica why not even vice versa?
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| Vlad |
Posted - Feb 04 2008 : 2:49:13 PM
They're not fakes, it says non-KMZ Zenits.
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| cedricfan |
Posted - Feb 04 2008 : 2:43:51 PM
And I see there hs been new additions to that KMZ-webbsite after I last visited it.
The Zenit DF-2 is also a Chinese Seagull.
I can't understand Russian, so I don't know what it says about Lomo and BeLomo "Zenits", but it is hard for me to think them as fakes, made under USSR ruling?
Also the rebagded Helios-lenses that were sold in UK by TOE are "legalized fakes" as USSR had a major share of TOE.
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| Vlad |
Posted - Feb 04 2008 : 2:28:15 PM
Luiz posted this before:
http://zenit.istra.ru/qa/qa-nonkmz.html
Vlad. |
