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zhang
Kievuser

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Posted - Dec 06 2007 :  09:24:51 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote

Hi,

This is for a record. I bought this lens in Moscow when I was stationed there. It has a small s/n that is smaller than M Princelle's(001490).Has anyone owned an earlier Jupiter-6?
What makes it interesting is that it has a price sticker on the leather case, a not so cheap 200 rubles! I understand 1 ruble's official rate was about 2 US dollars in the 1970's. I don't have the exact figure, but this was a very expensive lens then.

Cheers,

Zhang

Zoom
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Posted - Dec 06 2007 :  10:44:51 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Kievuser


I understand 1 ruble's official rate was about 2 US dollars in the 1970's.


Read the Note #1 on this page (sorry, in Russian):
http://www.zenitcamera.com/qa/qa-prices.html#n1
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seka
France
29 Posts
My Collection

Posted - Dec 06 2007 :  6:54:09 PM  Show Profile  Visit seka's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Congrats !
Mine is 002331
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seka
France
29 Posts
My Collection

Posted - Dec 06 2007 :  7:05:17 PM  Show Profile  Visit seka's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Ho, i forgot alain's specs about the serial numbers !
It sounds like 00 in the begining for a VIP class, and 000 for the major first class VIP...
So maybe not earlier (but maybe yes, i don't know), but best build with particular controls...

Some of you there may write more precision about...
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zhang
Kievuser
310 Posts
Posted - Dec 07 2007 :  04:31:00 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Hi seka,

Are you kidding? 000 for 1st class VIP? Who is alain?

I hope it is true nevertheless.

Cheers,

Zhang

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Originally posted by seka

Ho, i forgot alain's specs about the serial numbers !
It sounds like 00 in the begining for a VIP class, and 000 for the major first class VIP...
So maybe not earlier (but maybe yes, i don't know), but best build with particular controls...

Some of you there may write more precision about...

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zhang
Kievuser
310 Posts
Posted - Dec 07 2007 :  04:38:05 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Sibasiba. I hope you understand what I mean.

I forgot the few Russian words I have leant.I feel Russian spoken lanuage sounds very nice like French.

quote:
Originally posted by Zoom

quote:
Originally posted by Kievuser


I understand 1 ruble's official rate was about 2 US dollars in the 1970's.


Read the Note #1 on this page (sorry, in Russian):
http://www.zenitcamera.com/qa/qa-prices.html#n1


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Zoom
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Posted - Dec 07 2007 :  07:54:53 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by seka

It sounds like 00 in the begining for a VIP class, and 000 for the major first class VIP...


Nope.
The first zeros specify that it is an experimental or a pre-seria batch. Sometimes an experimental batches were numbered differently. The quantity of zeros has no value.
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seka
France
29 Posts
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Posted - Dec 08 2007 :  04:41:31 AM  Show Profile  Visit seka's Homepage  Reply with Quote
quote:
The quantity of zeros has no value.


I guess Zoom's explanation is a more believable issue about zeros than mine... Thanks !
I'm so sad, Zhang, you're not the first VIP i would let you to be, but a simple pre-serial guy !!!

However, to be serious, my Jup6 sample is really a good lens to use, very sharp, neutral rendition, clean bokeh, etc... Could not notice differences on photos taked beetween it and the original Sonnar.

Friendly yours.
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BERRY alain
mermoz37
France
814 Posts
Posted - Dec 08 2007 :  05:55:16 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
mine is 000158..but name is : Helios 4O-T

another is 642069 (standard Helios 40...whithout "T")

Alain.
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seka
France
29 Posts
My Collection

Posted - Dec 08 2007 :  06:41:09 AM  Show Profile  Visit seka's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Dear Mermoz37, Zhang talk about big brother Jupiter 6 (180/2.8) instead of Helios 40...

But if you permited, i have a question about H-40 : Do you notice a difference about coating beetween "Red T" one and mass normal product of your Helios 40 ? Thanks.
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zhang
Kievuser
310 Posts
Posted - Dec 08 2007 :  08:20:37 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Hi Alain,

I was about to show off my 000878 Helios-40, but you beat me. 000158 could be a member of the party central committe, so a VIP with no question.

My Tair-3 Grand Prix 4.5/300 has a s/n 000887. Any earler Tair-3 out there? 000887 could be one of the army generals.

Cheers,

Zhang

quote:
Originally posted by mermoz37

mine is 000158..but name is : Helios 4O-T

another is 642069 (standard Helios 40...whithout "T")

Alain.

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zhang
Kievuser
310 Posts
Posted - Dec 08 2007 :  08:27:47 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Hi seka,

I still believe it was custom made for one of the red army generals. Who else need a lens like that?

Cheers,

Zhang

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Originally posted by seka

quote:
The quantity of zeros has no value.


I guess Zoom's explanation is a more believable issue about zeros than mine... Thanks !
I'm so sad, Zhang, you're not the first VIP i would let you to be, but a simple pre-serial guy !!!

However, to be serious, my Jup6 sample is really a good lens to use, very sharp, neutral rendition, clean bokeh, etc... Could not notice differences on photos taked beetween it and the original Sonnar.

Friendly yours.

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BERRY alain
mermoz37
France
814 Posts
Posted - Dec 08 2007 :  1:02:14 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Ok Mr Seka ..my monster J-8 is 003865...
anyway , no differences between H40 and H 40T (not red T but "Helios 40 - T"
some one told me "T" means this lense is ready for use in Antartic temperatures...(?) may be.
I know a wite painted (expensive too) TAir 300-T for such use...

My lowest sn in optics are :
Zodiak 2m 7000001 (illustrated in Pricelle's) and Zoom Rubin 002 (39mm screw !)...
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Luiz Paracampo
Luiz Paracampo
Brazil
2002 Posts
My Collection

Posted - Dec 08 2007 :  1:12:15 PM  Show Profile  Visit Luiz Paracampo's Homepage  Reply with Quote
mermoz37
Let we see such beasts!
We are water-mouthed!
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Zoom
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Posted - Dec 08 2007 :  7:35:56 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by mermoz37

some one told me "T" means this lense is ready for use in Antartic temperatures...


Index "T" -- "for Television".
Very rare -- "Tropical variant".

See
http://www.zenitcamera.com/qa/qa-indexes.html

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seka
France
29 Posts
My Collection

Posted - Dec 09 2007 :  04:00:14 AM  Show Profile  Visit seka's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Thanks Mermoz37, thanks Zoom...
I'm very curious to see one day your Tropical Television's Helios 40...

About Tair 3, dear Zhang, i saw in those times on Ebay serial 000839 (close to yours), and an impressive 000011 one !!!
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BERRY alain
mermoz37
France
814 Posts
Posted - Dec 09 2007 :  12:24:23 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Hum, hummmmm ...TV lense ? in 39mm screw mount ? ??


may be ?
why not ???

here is this lense.

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seka
France
29 Posts
My Collection

Posted - Dec 09 2007 :  7:18:55 PM  Show Profile  Visit seka's Homepage  Reply with Quote
woooow...
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zhang
Kievuser
310 Posts
Posted - Dec 10 2007 :  02:29:10 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Hi,

This is a very good number for Chinese. Something like"I am going to be rich".:-)
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