Latin Leningrad

Hello,

a nice latin engraved Leningrad arrived here today. I have never seen one before and have some questions to it.

The speed dial looks different from any speed dial I have seen on russian cameras, the 1/60 and 1/8 second are more engraved to the middle of the dial. Is it normal for the version with the modernized times?

The film marker and gost marker plate on the rewind dial is completly made of plastic. I have never seen such a marker plate before.

And the little plate with the two holes above the front range finder window has a groove.

By the way, it works very good and there was a roll of film in it :-)
The lens is not the original one, it came with a late black Industar 50 but the J-8 looks better :-)

Here are some pics:

http://fotos.cconin.de/ussrphoto/lenlat03.jpg

http://fotos.cconin.de/ussrphoto/lenlat01.jpg

http://fotos.cconin.de/ussrphoto/lenlat02.jpg

Ulrich



http://fotos.cconin.de

Hi Ulrich,

I think it is a very rare camera. It is also in excellent condition. It is a gem. Congratulations!

Zhang

Hi Ulrich,

This speed dial was used on later versions of the Leningrad, once the new shutter speed sequence using 1/60 had been adopted. The earlier one using 1/50 has the more traditional alignment. Of the four Leningrad cameras that I have in my collection, ranging from 001878 to 650334, none have the groove in the RF adjuster cap. Three of my cameras have a film speed selector like yours. Also, the film speed reminder disk appears to be aluminium in all my cameras.
An interesting find.


David

(http://www.rcccuk.com)

Nice find Ulrich![:)] Many congratulations [:)]

Samsung GX-10,too many Russian Lenses, A lot of Zenits, an Almaz 103 a few Yashica,and finally a Minox35GT

Hi Ulrich,

I join to my message a (very bad desktop made) photo of the rewind knob of my Latin Leningrad n° 61 2842.
As you can see, the rewind knob is slightly different from yours.

By the way, my Cyrillic Leningrad n° 62 2283 has the same knob.
(But none of them has the "groove"… )[:(]

So, nice find.
Congratulations [:)]

Michel

http://www.ussrphoto.com/UserContent/6112009_Len. latin.jpg

http://www.ussrphoto.com/UserContent/6112009_Len. latin.jpg

Thanks for all the comments :-)

Princelle says that the latin Leningrad is rare. Does anybody know how often it was built?

Ulrich

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Hi Ulrich,

Here the adress of a site about Leningrad cameras.
http://corsopolaris.net/supercameras/leningrad/leningrad.html
I think you already know it.
(It says that latin Leningrad are rare, but no more.)
So, it doesn't answer to your (our) question…[:(]

Sincerly,
Michel.

thanks Michel...
as far I can check my collection ...only Police camera is missing ...It is not very pleasant to mention it to me, in the morning of beautiful day!!![:(!]
This day is going to be wretched unless a colleague proposes me this camera on Ebay[:D][:D][:D]

Sorry for you, my friend… [:(]

Go on digging on eB…

(But… eh… oh… do you pretend to have all the stuff?)[:D][:D][:D]

all stuff ? yes but I think I must check motor button groves[B)]
anyway congratulation too for Ulrich hunter's talent [;)]

Yeaahh…

… and the viewfinder adjusting plate <b>WITH</b> grooves…

Good luck ![:D][:D][:D][:D][:D][:D][:D][:D]

The grooved plate above the rangefinder adjustment seems not to be original ... I have tried to remove it (it sits very tight) and I found out that it was glued on :-( So somebody has lost the original plate and has taken another one that just coveres the hole. It does not have the two "ears" to lock it. But I have some spare Leningrad parts so I will restore it to it's original state, I think.

Ulrich

http://fotos.cconin.de

Hi Ulrich,

So, the viewfinder adjustment grooved plate is not original on your Latin Len.

Can we think that some "unusual" Kievs have suffered such transformations ?

(OK, I am out of subject, but the question remains…)

Sincerly,
Michel.

Michel,

that's a good question. I have seen a Kiev just a few days before where the black paint is missing :-))) I think this is a very rare transitional model when the sowjets did not have enough black paint but the 5 years plan must be done *g*

Ok I'm just kidding. But if you think of the Kiev III/Kiev 4 models I am not very sure if they are real. I own such a Kiev III with a Kiev 4 lightmeter. I don't know if a good worker has just done a good job to repair a broken Kiev III lightmeter in a country where it maybe was not easy to get parts for a regular repair. Or if they are real samples between the model change. But how it is, they are interesting and they fill up the collector's vitrine :-)

On the other hand the KIIV 4 models are real to me. We know of about more than a dozen KIIV III models of the year, and in 1958 the Arsenal factory has made also Kiev 4 models. So it was a good idea of them to make some Kiev 4 with Ukrainian logo on the front plate. I don't think that the rare KIIV 3 front plates were used to make up a KIIV 4 model, for that the KIIV III war too rare.

Let's see what surprises the future has to us.

Ulrich

http://fotos.cconin.de