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Topic author: sovietcam

Posted on: 20071124143115

hi,

i have this box camera ( see actual picture ) in my collection and search information. which member can help me.

thanks for your answer[:)]


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Reply author: nightphoto

Replied on: 20071124151640


I don't know for sure, but probably this is a German box camera that was sold at a retail photography shop in Kharkov. It looks like the label of a retailer, not of a maker. I think the label reads: Kharkov ... Anatoli Werner ... Moscow St. No. 2

I think Vlad could give a better translation. The camera may be from about 1910 - 1925 ... my guess.

Regards, Bill

Reply author: Vlad

Replied on: 20071124152916

Bill,

you may be right about the German origin, the plaque may also be owner's tag as well since it has person's name and address... age-wise I would say definitely pre-1918 since the "hard sign" letter and letter "I" (Yat') was dropped from Russian language at that time. Your translation is correct Bill.

Reply author: sovietcam

Replied on: 20071124164153

thanks both for the answer and translation. i will see in my price guides for this camera.
best regards

Reply author: AidasCams

Replied on: 20071124165702

Hello Sovietcam,
Welcome to our forum! You have choosen the name, very similar to my website www.sovietcams.com. So I'd like to introduce with you. My introduction text could be found on the very beginnig of this forum, could you tell some words about you?

Best Regards,
Aidas

Reply author: sovietcam

Replied on: 20071124173929

hi aidas

thanks for welcome. nice website have you, very interesting for me. ago 3 years i have bought my first camera, a zorki 4k export version, today i have a collection over 200 soviet cameras, many accessoirs, books, journal...i meet you, and you meet me!?! sunday-bookday

best regards
mike

Reply author: Luiz Paracampo

Replied on: 20071124192200

Sovietcam
At http://www.photohistory.ru/LargeFormatCam.htm
14-15. "Pioner", "Pioner-2", middle of 1930 years (1937-38-?), Kiev Factory “FOKHT” (Ukrainfil’m), Artel Factory of Moscow “ARFO.”
you will see a similar camera (made in USSR)
But acording to pictures you sent, this is a German camera pre-1917.
I cannot precise you but I sahll do a research...
Many thanks for coming ... many thanks for your contribution.
We are growing to be the most distintie center of Russian camera information.

Reply author: AidasCams

Replied on: 20071126045719

Hello Mike,

Nice to see you here and I'm very glad to meet the person with the same look to soviet books. To say the truth, I know you well as my strongest opponent in many eBay lots for a years ... [:D]

Regards,
Aidas

P.S. I like your box camera a lot ...

Reply author: sovietcam

Replied on: 20071126121151

hi aidas

the pleasure is mine. well you finally get to know, not only at ebay. i am pleased that other people also interested in books. you have one of the best website, very informative. so please continue.

regards
mike