??? camera

hi,

i have this box camera ( see actual picture ) in my collection and search information. which member can help me.

thanks for your answer

I don't know for sure, but probably this is a German box camera that was sold at a retail photography shop in Kharkov. It looks like the label of a retailer, not of a maker. I think the label reads: Kharkov ... Anatoli Werner ... Moscow St. No. 2

I think Vlad could give a better translation. The camera may be from about 1910 - 1925 ... my guess.

Regards, Bill

Bill,

you may be right about the German origin, the plaque may also be owner's tag as well since it has person's name and address... age-wise I would say definitely pre-1918 since the "hard sign" letter and letter "I" (Yat') was dropped from Russian language at that time. Your translation is correct Bill.

thanks both for the answer and translation. i will see in my price guides for this camera.
best regards

Hello Sovietcam,
Welcome to our forum! You have choosen the name, very similar to my website www.sovietcams.com. So I'd like to introduce with you. My introduction text could be found on the very beginnig of this forum, could you tell some words about you?

Best Regards,
Aidas

hi aidas

thanks for welcome. nice website have you, very interesting for me. ago 3 years i have bought my first camera, a zorki 4k export version, today i have a collection over 200 soviet cameras, many accessoirs, books, journal...i meet you, and you meet me!?! sunday-bookday

best regards
mike

Sovietcam
At http://www.photohistory.ru/LargeFormatCam.htm
14-15. "Pioner", "Pioner-2", middle of 1930 years (1937-38-?), Kiev Factory “FOKHT” (Ukrainfil’m), Artel Factory of Moscow “ARFO.”
you will see a similar camera (made in USSR)
But acording to pictures you sent, this is a German camera pre-1917.
I cannot precise you but I sahll do a research...
Many thanks for coming ... many thanks for your contribution.
We are growing to be the most distintie center of Russian camera information.

Hello Mike,

Nice to see you here and I'm very glad to meet the person with the same look to soviet books. To say the truth, I know you well as my strongest opponent in many eBay lots for a years ...

Regards,
Aidas

P.S. I like your box camera a lot ...

hi aidas

the pleasure is mine. well you finally get to know, not only at ebay. i am pleased that other people also interested in books. you have one of the best website, very informative. so please continue.

regards
mike