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Jacques M.

The early ("stepped") Fed 3









Hello,
I have recently completed my collection of Fed 3s. It's a camera I love; don't ask why... It is well known and common. But it seems there are (very!) tiny details not known until now.
So, if you are interested...

The first of my Fed 3 is the 1000245, so the 245th.
All the very early Fed 3 have in common one logo only on the front, the special cornered top plate mouldings and the rim around the finder. This one has too:
- an ocular with radial stripes,
- very fine engravings on the speed dial, perhaps made by hand.
Please, have a look at the photos.
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uwittehh
Jacques,
the next days we will have rainy and windy weather here. Then I have the time to continue with the "Start". The next step is to cut new curtains and re-glue them.

I have checked the serial numbers of my FED 3b. Some are 6 digits long, some 7. According to Aidas site the ones with the 7 digits are the earlier ones. And there were approx 1,4 millions built of all FED 3b. That is a lot :-)

Ulrich

https://ritzelkiste.de
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Jacques M.
Jacques M.
Hello Alex and Ulrich (and others!),
It seems we have enough questions to open new threads about the 26M and the Fed 3b!
Concerning the scale of distance, I don't see any reason, but of course there is one... At first sight, it seems that this "special" scale only affects the second series of 26M, not the first one with the original body of that type:
USSRPhoto.com - Russian / Soviet Cameras Wiki Catalog - Industar-26m

Radojuva doesn't speak of it in his interesting article:
https://radojuva.com/en/2020/06/industar-26m-2-8-f-5-sm-p-fed-50mm/

Amitiés. Jacques.
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Alex_Rus
I looked through my collection. With this distance scale (up to 22m), I-26M (not Industriar-26M!) lenses with numbers from 117xxxx to 187xxxx
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just arrived in my collection

note :
a "no-name" factory design Lubitel (black front paint whith original rivets) may be to be silk screen rebadged in export or just for International exibition ? (never used)
and an original Kristall whithout usual hammered grey enamel.Seem to be factory made like this : soft matt aluminium (whithout any scratches or cracks)...I can confirm never painted.
serial number : 61018045

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xya
Bravo Jacques !!! You still discover incredibly scarce items these days. And I know that you don't spend thousends on these. That's what real collectors are, scanning the internet day by day for their target. Good luck et bonne continuation.
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Jacques,
great find! Not far away from my 9105. It has scratched the number "4 7/VI" on the shutter housing.

Ulrich

https://ritzelkiste.de
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Jacques M.
Jacques M.
Thanks for your wishes, Reinhart. Si jamais tu passes par la Normandie...
Ulrich: about the date of checking inside, I have 22/VI on the # 8705 and 24 or 27/VI on my # 8878. Two "homozygous" (Bing translation!) twins which differ only by details of montage. X for my # 10020 (day not visible). All that correspond to the official "10000th Fed produced in september 1935".

Amitiés. Jacques.
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Jacques M.

A weird Lytkarino Industar 50...

Hello,

For the moment, I only have two photos of this LZOS Industar 50.Here they are:




Of course the serial number is odd.
But the body too which is a M39 (coupled or not, that's not clear).
I should receive it in two or three weeks. But if that remembers something to one of you...

Amitiés. Jacques.
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Alex_Rus
This is a standart lens from the Kiev-16c movie camera.
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Jacques M.
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Checked.
Absolutely stupid of me. I don't know anything about movie cameras...🤔Sorry. And thanks a lot!

Jacques.
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Alex_Rus
Jacques, it`s impossible to know everything. But that's what the forum is for :)
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uwittehh

Repair instructions on my site

Hello,

I think this might be of interest to you all too, so I have put all my repair instructions, which were scattered all over my website, together on one page.
All pages are still in German, but I will translate them into English in the future.

If you are interested you can have a look: http://ritzelkiste.de/kameras/repair/index.htm

Have fun
Ulrich

http://fotos.cconin.de
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uwittehh
So, everything should now work via SSL. I contacted the hotline, and they were able to activate it for me. However, they couldn't explain to me why I couldn't activate it myself ;-)

Ulrich
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Vlad, thanks :) But I think I will not publish a book. Maybe when I have made more repaires ;-)
Ulrich

https://ritzelkiste.de
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uwittehh
uwittehh
Hello,

I've written a new guide, “Overhauling a Zorki 5”: https://ritzelkiste.de/kameras/zorki5rep/indexe.htm

It's an interesting camera because, on the one hand, it was released in 1958 as a bottom-loader, years after the Zorki 3, with its removable back, had already been on the market. On the other hand, however, it already features the same quick-release lever as the Zenit 3M, which wasn't released until a few years later.

Next up, I have two Start cameras here, both from the first series with the Plexiglas covers on the wind and rewind buttons. Unfortunately, both are broken, they have defective shutter curtains, and one has been tampered with. Let's see if I can turn two broken ones into one that works :-)

Ulrich
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Yuriy Lozinsky

Rare lens Industar-61 with distance scale in FEET

Hello everyone!
The export version of the Industar-61 lens with a distance scale in feet is very rare.
I know of only a few examples:
I-61 #6591212 (1965)
I-61 #8519490 (1973)
I-61 #8697161 (1974)
I-61 #8715502 (1975)
I-61 #8864961 (1976)
Does anyone have this lens or camera with documentation?
I'd like to know which countries they were exported to?





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SteveA
Found this on AI, also one for sale on Ebay:The Industar-61 lens with a distance scale in feet is a highly sought-after, rare export variant. While the standard production models manufactured by the FED factory in Kharkiv, Ukraine, exclusively feature a distance scale in metres, specific batches were specifically engraved in feet for Western export markets.

Fed 52mm f2.8 Industar 61 leica screw coupled lens, silver mount. | eBay UK
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Jacques M.
Jacques M.
Thanks Steve: I have just bought it! But I have found another one, always on ebay UK: FED Industar N-61 53mm f2.8 M39 Mount Manual Focus Lens | eBay UK I have made a short research on ebay. Nothing outside ebay UK, for the moment, which is understandable...
And thanks too to Yuriy: I didn't know that lens.
Amitiés. Jacques.
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Jacques M.
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In fact there is a certain number of these lenses on ebay UK, alone or mounted on bodies. Probably batches reserved to the United Kingdom, as Steve said....

Jacques.
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F21 camera photos taken


fuji positive film rvp100,my son
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Detlev
The F 21 takes 18 x 24 images. You can see one in the middle.

Regards, Detlev
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Detlev


here is the image
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seany65
Having read all the posts and done a search on "F-21 camera" I Now understand what I'm looking at - The original photo was taken on slide film using an Ajax-F21 camera, and the slide was put into a slide viewer and then photographed with a different camera and that image was posted.
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Francesco

just arrived

After a long time, something interesting to post: Zenit APk with MC Zenitar-K 1.9/50

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seany65
I've just done a quick search to find out about this camera and it seems that even though it has a Japanese shutter the rest of it was still pretty unreliable.

Hope it turns out to be quite reliable.
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Vlad

Wiki Article: Memories of my friend Isaak Maizenberg by Greg Prior

This is a preface to a preface. On May 31, 2026, I met Greg Prior at a camera show in Detroit, Michigan. We had a very pleasant conversation and soon discovered that we shared an interest in Isaak Maizenberg. Greg had known Isaak personally, while I knew of him through his reputation and through many people in the camera collecting community who had known or worked with him.

Isaak was a prominent figure in the Soviet photographic world. He authored numerous articles for Soviet photography magazines, books on camera repair and was a renowned camera repairman in both the Soviet Union and the United States. He was also one of the pioneers of Soviet camera collecting and restoration, helping to shape the hobby and preserve its history for future generations.

After the show, Greg and I continued communicating and agreed that it would be a great idea to write an article about Isaak. The article below was written by Greg and is accompanied by an article from Shutterbug magazine. Together, they serve as a tribute to Isaak's life, his contributions to photography, and the lasting impression he made on those who knew him. I believe this site would be a perfect place to host this article. Thank you @Greg Prior!

https://ussrphoto.com/modern/Wiki/default.asp?WikiCatID=50&ParentID=49&ContentID=1738&Item=Memories+of+my+friend+Isaak+Maizenberg++
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seany65
I've just had a quick look through the article in the link and I noticed that Isaak earned a 30% pay bonus "for every pay period". I've only ever earned a £10 pay rise, when I learned to change the copper wire holding "Magazine" on the Toroidal power transformer winder that I operated in 2000-2001.

Some years later I "earned" being fired after 3 and a half hours when I was assembling metal frames for lights.🙄

So far those are the only noteworthy episodes in my working life.
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Jacques M.

The Fed 1c #94913 was "liquidated"...

Hello,I had purchased that Fed some days ago in USA. And I received yesterday a message from ebay saying it had been "liquidated".
It's not the first time that such a thing happens. Vlad knows that too.
But, in that precise case, this Fed was made in 1939, in Kharkiv, which is in Ukraine, as everybody knows. More of all, it is still engraved with YCCP, Y for Ukraine, of course. So I don't understand why the US restrictive decrets were applied.

I was (or will be) reimbursed. But I wonder about the reason of this liquidation. Who took that decision? Ebay? The US administration? And this 1c was the last known, for the moment.
All that is grotesque.

Jacques.
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Vlad
Vlad
that's exactly what happened to my pre-war Smena, I ended up buying from another seller and selling to my buyer directly 🤣
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cedricfan
cedricfan
liquidated means they sell it to someone for cheap to resell in bulk and claim their insurance to get the funds back or something of sorts.. they are blocking anything soviet/russian to be moving between US and any other country in each direction.


Has anyone experience how it goes inside Europe? Is this only between US and Europe? Just checked ebay.de and there is a lot of FSU-cameras for sale!

Best regards,
Juhani
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Jacques M.
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It's only between US and other countries. If this Fed had been declared from "Ukraine" rather than "russian federation" by the seller, it would be here now...
Amitiés. Jacques.
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Vlad

Kiev III/IV crossover model 1957

This i a very interesting Kiev 4 (?) camera wiki entry that warrants some discussion, first of all it has the "T"-shaped ridge on top of the light meter which is fairly atypical for the 1957 Kiev 4 and what happened to the flash sync contact? this is extremely weird. Denn I saw you post this, is there a photo of the bottom of the camera? does it have a leg like III or it's flat like IV?
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Denn_kirov
quote:Originally posted by SteveA

The thing is that so many components are interchangable. You can effectively make any combination of meter, shutter speed dials etc. Also accessory shoes with the serial number can be easily swapped. The tripod bush was redesigned and did move slightly sideways when the Kiev 4 came out but shutter crates, top covers, front covers etc., can all be interchanged. Thats not to say there may be some genuine unusual cameras out there..
Cheers,
Steve


Exactly. For this reason I take cameras with a history of ownership and if possible with documents from the owners, not from resellers.
Best regards.
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AlexanderK
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It seems for me to be repaired. May be the lightmeter was changed, but the owner wanted to have original s/n as in the camera att.

Regards, Alexander
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Jacques M.
Jacques M.
A (late) question about that thread...Concerning these early 1951 Kiev 4, is the graduation in GOST? By what I have found on wikipedia, GOST graduation was introduced only in october 1951.

Jacques.
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cedricfan

Odd Zenit-E covering

Found this today at a flea market, and took pics with my Communicator to ask if this leather like covering is rare?
So excuse for the poor picture quality by Nokia:





Smena rules
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Vlad
Vlad
In Ukraine, FED had the same covering (probably same leather maker) on FED-5b (maybe other 5's too), FED-50, and Arsenal had it on Kiev 30
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Vlad
Vlad
but now that's I'm thinking maybe not the same exact grain..
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Francesco
Francesco
I just found a similar Zenit E today N°66004557 with an unusual MMZ Helios 44 N°6033626, cirillic engraving,white shutter speed disk and m39 mount.
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Zenit-E

According to J L Princelle's book, Zenit-Es manufactured by KMZ between 1965 and 1968 did not have instant-return mirrors. The earliest camera that I have found so far is a 1968 model, and that certainly has got an instant-return mirror. Can anyone confirm that the earliest versions of the Zenit-E did indeed not have instant-return mirrors. I assume that these early versions would only be available with 39mm lens mounts. Any information would be much appreciated.

David.
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Luiz Paracampo
To fotomuda
PLs send us your homepage address.
Regards LP
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cedricfan
cedricfan
Click the "My Collection" on left...

Best regards,
Juhani
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runner
I purchased my earliest Zenit-E recently with serial 65000669. And it has an instant return mirror as any other Zenit-E. Also I checked mirror of 66001210 camera and several latest cameras of the same year. I'm definetely sure that old type mirror of earliest Es is just a myth. I wrote about it at Kosmo Foto here: https://kosmofoto.com/2025/03/the-krasnagorsk-cutlet-solving-the-mirror-mystery-of-early-zenit-es/
And if you interested about Zenit-E evolution you can also read this: https://kosmofoto.com/2022/11/zenit-e-solving-the-enduring-mysteries-of-the-worlds-most-popular-slr/

runner
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cheap kiev4m/am

looking for a cheap spare parts kiev4a/am for a TTL metering project, i already have a spare shutter modified with a light sensor.
The body i originally wanted to use is no good tho.
I'm looking for spare Kiev4am body to drop the shutter in, a 4m would also be fine but the whole point is is kind of the get rid of the original selenium meter.
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seany65
Hello and welcome to the forum cainiao.
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Luiz Paracampo books "2300 Anos de Fotografia"

Regarding the thread https://ussrphoto.com/modern/Forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=3631 , I note that, sadly, the links posted by Luiz Paracampo are no longer accessible.

Could one of you please upload these files to the forum, or let me know where I can access them?

Thanks in advance

JT
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Vlad
Vlad
@JTB seems his novacon site is currently down, I've been trying to get ahold of Luiz to make sure everything is ok, currently I have a friend in Brazil trying to contact him as he's not replying to my emails. 🙏
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Jacques M.
Jacques M.
Please Vlad, tell when (if) you have news from Luiz.
Amitiés. Jacques.
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Jacques M.

Fed 1a: a strange serial number


Hello,
Found on Meshok, this Fed 1a where everything is normal, except this extra (and evident) "1".
Strange...

Jacques.
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uwittehh

A Witness to the Times

I found this film canister on eBay recently. It once contained AGFA Isopan F film, manufactured in Bitterfeld/Wolfen. What makes it special is that the label also includes Russian text.
Later, the name AGFA was replaced by ORWO.



Ulrich

http://fotos.cconin.de
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Fotohuis
Fotohuis
OrWo Filmotec and Inoviscoat are both just sold.
https://flic.kr/p/2sqwGsC
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Detlev
AGFA Bitterfeld was in the Soviet-occupied zone and had to deliver films to the Soviet Union as reparations
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Jacques M.

The non Leica fakes





Hello,
The "Leica fakes" thread gave me the idea of a "non Leica fakes" one.
By "non Leica fakes", I mean cameras with the LTM/M39 system, made from Fed/Zorki bodies. The engraving on the cover can be a Canon, Shanghai, SAGEM, etc.

Here is my Fed-Nicca:
- Fed shutter box,
- Nicca cover and RF.

Feel free to post your discoveries!

Amitiés. Jacques.
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uwittehh
uwittehh
Jacques,
I did not know that these cameras were also faked. Unfortunately I don't have any.
But maybe it could be a new collection area ;-)

Ulrich

http://fotos.cconin.de
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Jacques M.
Jacques M.






It's never too late, Ulrich!😉

Here, a Reid I fake made from a Zorki I and an Industar 22 (not mine, for sale on ebay at a stratospheric price!).

Amitiés. Jacques.
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TWINS

Hi !
FED #12807 + #12808




Moscow-4 #5500611 + #5500612


FED #7428 + #7429 + #7430



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Jacques M.
Jacques M.

Just to help a bit...



Amitiés. Jacques.
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Jacques M.
Jacques M.




I could not help buying the s/n 465617...Note that the 618 has a black logo, not the 617.
Amitiés. Jacques.
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Fred_L
Fred_L


http://www.ussrphoto.com/UserContent/962016_jpg 33.jpg

I am really surpised, because I own the 261 and the 262 !!!! Of course I can make pics of them.
As Jacques said, I am also very interested in the 263, because I own also the 264!!!
Fred
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New curtains source for zorki

i recently bought some etone shutter curtain to replace the old ones in my zorki3.
I noticed because the etone curtains are only 0.15mm at speed 1/1000 the curtain dosent create a gap, i had to make the drum thicker by adding extra curtain material.
now the gap for 1/1000 at the begin of the travel is about ~1,2mm and at the end ~3,4mm.

So im looking for a better source for zorki curtains since the last post discussing is already over a decade old.
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uwittehh
uwittehh
I buy my shutter clothes at nobbysparrow on ebay, he has clothes that are 0.2mm. And instead of making the drum thicker you can change the position of the curtain on the big drum. Only 1mm makes a big difference.

Ulrich
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thanks, moving the curtain 1mm unfortunately dosen't work on 0,15mm curtains because the shutter wouldn't fully close while cocking the shutter.
didn't knew 0.05mm in thickness would make such a huge difference at 1/1000 because the etone curtains seems to work ok for 1/500.

i will look into the curtains from nobbysparrow for my next CLA
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uwittehh
uwittehh
I'm familiar with the problem of the curtain not closing properly when cocking. I've always been able to solve the problem by adjusting its position on the large drum.
I haven't had any problems with nobbysparrow's curtains so far. I also sell refurbished cameras and have only received positive feedback until now.
Maybe the slight difference in thickness does make a difference.

Good luck :-)

Ulrich

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The weird hammer-and-sickle FED

Hello,

I recently showed a photo of the Hammer-and-Sickle FED No. 3214. I was wondering why the shutter curtains were faulty – after all, I’ve had it for 15 years.
So I took it apart to repair it.



When I took the cover off, what on earth was that? A Zorki cover! The ‘Zorki’ lettering had been stamped out and sanded down at the top.



If you look closely at the top, you can still make out a sort of shadow of the ‘Zorki’ lettering.



It is also strange that some parts were numbered. The shutter box and the housing have a ‘74’ scratched into them, and on the top, the ‘74’ has even been stamped in.







The date scratched into the side of the case is also still visible, but in an unusual format: 7 - 8 - 5. Could this perhaps be 7 August 1955?



Ulrich

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uwittehh
uwittehh
And this is the result after reassembling it all :-)


Ulrich

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Jacques M.
Jacques M.
Interesting!It looks (a bit!) like the very early Kievs with Contax still stamped on the reverse of the front plate!
For you, the mechanism belongs to a Fed or a Zorki?

Amitiés. Jacques.
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Jacques,
that was my first thought, too (Contax - Kiev) :-)
The camera is definitely a FED; only the top cover was taken from a Zorki.
I'm wondering what the “7 - 8 - 5” means. If it's 1955, then it would be a FED 1f or 1g; or maybe 1945.

Ulrich

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