Funny Arsenal Jupiter-8M

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Topic author: Vlad

Posted on: 20140828104245

What in the heck is this "kotleta"? LOL! Looks like they combined I-61 and Jupiter-8M front...

http://www.ussrphoto.com/resize/resize_image.aspx?ImgWd=800&IptFl=/UserContent/2882014_1.jpg

http://www.ussrphoto.com/UserContent/2882014_1.jpg

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Reply author: Jacques M.

Replied on: 20140828161216

Yes, it's not the first one I see.
The former had a body which was completely chromed.

I have seen too recently a 2/5cm Sonnar in the same barrel. Not sure the Sonnar was genuine...And a Nikkor 1,4 SC in a Jupiter 8 barrel.
The three-card trick!

Jacques.

Reply author: Vlad

Replied on: 20140828161803

Jacques, but it's not an original right? It's a combination of 2 lenses? How does that even work? How can they be optically compatible? I'm just confused about that..

Cheers,
Vlad.

Reply author: Jacques M.

Replied on: 20140828171948

Hi Vlad!

The first Industar 26m were made from the aluminium barrel of the Jupiter 8. On the contrary, it is certainly possible to put a Jup8 lens part into an Industar 61 barrel...

But really, I don't see the benefit. It's much better to put a Nikkor 1,4 SC (from a bayonet mount) into a LTM Jup 8 barrel: you can gain 200 €... But surely it's not so evident...

Amitiés.

Reply author: Jacques M.

Replied on: 20140829032711

I had forgotten: I have a 1939 Sonnar in a Jup 8 of the fifties. It was only necessary to shim it: the mechanisms are perfectly compatible.
It's the same family...

Reply author: Vlad

Replied on: 20140829103547

Interesting. I'm not a lens/optics expert, I collect mostly for mechanical aspect of camera bodies themselves, but for some reason I was under the impression that the optical formulas would be incompatible since each lens uses different number of elements etc.. but I guess it's much simpler between these after all.. thank you for clarifying. But an interestin hybrid, just stood out to me as I've never seen such combination before.

Cheers,
Vlad.

Reply author: vorobaz

Replied on: 20140831061855

Hi! I have one of the "zebra" export variant Jupiter-8 (m39). And two of them I find on the photo in the internet. All three - 1968 year of production:

http://img-fotki.yandex.ru/get/5632/3807020.9c/0_7f14a_40297551_XL.jpg

http://img-fotki.yandex.ru/get/5644/3807020.9c/0_7f14b_bb9a5c65_XL.jpg

http://img-fotki.yandex.ru/get/4115/3807020.9c/0_7f14c_42a2758f_XL.jpg

http://img-fotki.yandex.ru/get/5624/3807020.9c/0_7f14d_4b082912_XL.jpg

++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Serial numbers ¹681****:

¹6811677 (from Aidas site)
¹6815656 ( mine)
¹6814371 ( sale on rangefinder.ru http://rangefinder.ru/sale/showproduct.php/product/3519)

http://img-fotki.yandex.ru/get/6437/3807020.9b/0_7f016_7a863975_M.jpg

http://img-fotki.yandex.ru/get/6441/3807020.9c/0_7f4e5_794116b9_M.jpg

http://img-fotki.yandex.ru/get/6433/3807020.9c/0_7f103_2bc04d1e_M.jpg

Reply author: Jacques M.

Replied on: 20140831114411

Do you think they are home made combinations or original factory lenses?
The JLP notes that the black Jup 8 were made from c.1976, in the anodised version. And yours are from 1968...

It's not the first time I see these curious lenses, but I had not payed attention till now... Thanks!

Jacques.

Reply author: Luiz Paracampo

Replied on: 20140831165434

These were experimental factory made. Very rare
Regards

Reply author: vorobaz

Replied on: 20140901002037

This black ring from my J-8 ¹6815656:

http://img-fotki.yandex.ru/get/4134/3807020.9d/0_80d7e_533ba760_L.jpg

http://img-fotki.yandex.ru/get/4125/3807020.9d/0_80d7f_e85d5beb_L.jpg

http://img-fotki.yandex.ru/get/6435/3807020.9d/0_80d80_2a4eb13c_L.jpg

http://img-fotki.yandex.ru/get/4126/3807020.9d/0_80d82_e0b2efab_L.jpg

http://img-fotki.yandex.ru/get/5626/3807020.9d/0_80d83_abeb79cc_L.jpg

http://img-fotki.yandex.ru/get/4130/3807020.9d/0_80d84_9e505713_L.jpg

I think it's factory made.

Reply author: Jacques M.

Replied on: 20140901030520

Thanks, Vorobaz and Luiz.
Is there a reason to make a special batch of these zebra Jup 8?

Jacques.

Reply author: Vlad

Replied on: 20140902143527

My apologies, I did not originally provide a source for this picture, breaking my own rules [:)]. Here it is:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Fast-Russian-JUPITER-8-50-f2-LEICA-FED-Zorki-M39-LTM-Lens-Filter-BOX-/361036993838?pt=Camera_Lenses&hash=item540f7b552e

Reply author: Jacques M.

Replied on: 20140902161338

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by Vlad
 My apologies, I did not originally provide a source for this picture, breaking my own rules [:)]. Here it is:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Fast-Russian-JUPITER-8-50-f2-LEICA-FED-Zorki-M39-LTM-Lens-Filter-BOX-/361036993838?pt=Camera_Lenses&hash=item540f7b552e

<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote">

"Access impossible due to legal restrictions...."
These mentions are more and more numerous on eBay France, even if there is absolutely no problem of "contamination".
I don't understand what happens...

Perhaps black and white is a problem in itself?

Here is what I have:http://www.ebay.com/itm/Error?item=361036993838&errid=17

Jacques.

Reply author: vorobaz

Replied on: 20140903123837

Another interesting fact: in 1966 year we can see some J-8 fully blacked (experimental?):

http://img-fotki.yandex.ru/get/4119/3807020.9c/0_800d8_a1a631de_XL.jpg

http://img-fotki.yandex.ru/get/5633/3807020.9c/0_800d9_b7bc085b_XL.jpg

http://img-fotki.yandex.ru/get/5625/3807020.9c/0_800d6_c1fcec02_XL.jpg

http://img-fotki.yandex.ru/get/5624/3807020.9c/0_800da_e523d2a2_XL.jpg

like a fully black Orion-15 from 1966:

http://img-fotki.yandex.ru/get/6825/3807020.e2/0_9c98c_b8c9f11f_orig.jpg

http://img-fotki.yandex.ru/get/5100/3807020.e2/0_9c98d_19cc9d3b_orig.jpg

http://img-fotki.yandex.ru/get/5101/3807020.e2/0_9c98e_8d099978_orig.jpg

http://img-fotki.yandex.ru/get/5100/3807020.e2/0_9c98f_aa36f625_orig.jpg

http://img-fotki.yandex.ru/get/6809/3807020.e2/0_9c990_1a636161_orig.jpg

http://img-fotki.yandex.ru/get/6800/3807020.e2/0_9c991_9db0519b_orig.jpg

http://img-fotki.yandex.ru/get/6700/3807020.e2/0_9c992_3a5f68cd_orig.jpg

http://img-fotki.yandex.ru/get/5101/3807020.e2/0_9c993_a4a7cd3_orig.jpg

And serial numbers both it's 661*** [:)]

Reply author: Vlad

Replied on: 20140904094354

Again there is a J-8M in the I-61 body... http://www.ebay.com/itm/1959-Fast-USSR-Red-P-JUPITER-8-50-f2-LEICA-FED-Zorki-M39-LTM-Lens-BOX-/361040880990?pt=Camera_Lenses&hash=item540fb6a55e

Reply author: okynek

Replied on: 20140904163422

This seller have all kind of mix and match lenses,
Lomo T-43 in Fed barrel:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Russian-USSR-LOMO-Wide-Angle-M39-LTM-Lens-T-43-4-40-from-Lomography-Cap-/361040306858?pt=Camera_Lenses&hash=item540fade2aa
Helios 103 with Jupiter 8 parts:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Super-Fast-Portrait-Helios-103-1-8-53-Contax-lens-bundle-uniqe-Adapter-Sony-NEX-/361040299862?pt=Camera_Lenses&hash=item540fadc756

Good job [:)] I personally like these modifications [:)]

Reply author: vorobaz

Replied on: 20140905112754

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by okynek
...Helios 103 with Jupiter 8 parts
<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote">
May be conversely? Jupiter 8 has Helios 103 parts:

http://img-fotki.yandex.ru/get/6830/3807020.e2/0_9ca9a_c92a8a16_XL.jpg

http://img-fotki.yandex.ru/get/5101/3807020.e2/0_9ca9b_7f16b68a_XL.jpg

http://img-fotki.yandex.ru/get/6815/3807020.e2/0_9ca98_f9b4a9ae_XL.jpg

http://img-fotki.yandex.ru/get/6815/3807020.e2/0_9ca99_5a0f40c1_XL.jpg

See the PT3615 http://sovietcams.com/index.php?-1090910983

Reply author: Brian

Replied on: 20140913205053

I've made some of these type of hybrids-

Helios-103, LTM RF coupled using a close-focus helical for a Summar;
I-61L/D in Collapsible Contax RF Count, used a mount from a pre-war Sonnar;
5cm F1.5 Contax mt Sonnars in J-3 LTM Mounts;
5cm f2 Contax mt Sonnars in J-8 LTM Mounts.

And- 5-element Schneider Xenar from Karat mount to LTM, used a Canon 50/2.8 LTM focus mount.This lens was loose, found at a camera show for $30. Serial number is from the 40s.

http://www.leicaplace.com/showthread.php?t=153

Reply author: Jacques M.

Replied on: 20140914051502

Hi Brian!

Good to see you back!
Thanks for the details about your work: it explains that we can see hybrids (home or factory made) on eBay.

I hope you are not responsible for all![:D]

Amitiés. Jacques.