Funny Arsenal Jupiter-8M

What in the heck is this "kotleta"? LOL! Looks like they combined I-61 and Jupiter-8M front...

Yes, it's not the first one I see.
The former had a body which was completely chromed.

I have seen too recently a 2/5cm Sonnar in the same barrel. Not sure the Sonnar was genuine...And a Nikkor 1,4 SC in a Jupiter 8 barrel.
The three-card trick!

Jacques.

Jacques, but it's not an original right? It's a combination of 2 lenses? How does that even work? How can they be optically compatible? I'm just confused about that..

Cheers,
Vlad.

Hi Vlad!

The first Industar 26m were made from the aluminium barrel of the Jupiter 8. On the contrary, it is certainly possible to put a Jup8 lens part into an Industar 61 barrel...

But really, I don't see the benefit. It's much better to put a Nikkor 1,4 SC (from a bayonet mount) into a LTM Jup 8 barrel: you can gain 200 Ђ... But surely it's not so evident...

Amitiйs.

I had forgotten: I have a 1939 Sonnar in a Jup 8 of the fifties. It was only necessary to shim it: the mechanisms are perfectly compatible.
It's the same family...

Interesting. I'm not a lens/optics expert, I collect mostly for mechanical aspect of camera bodies themselves, but for some reason I was under the impression that the optical formulas would be incompatible since each lens uses different number of elements etc.. but I guess it's much simpler between these after all.. thank you for clarifying. But an interestin hybrid, just stood out to me as I've never seen such combination before.

Cheers,
Vlad.

Hi! I have one of the "zebra" export variant Jupiter-8 (m39). And two of them I find on the photo in the internet. All three - 1968 year of production:






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Serial numbers №681****:

№6811677 (from Aidas site)
№6815656 ( mine)
№6814371 ( sale on rangefinder.ru http://rangefinder.ru/sale/showproduct.php/product/3519)

Do you think they are home made combinations or original factory lenses?
The JLP notes that the black Jup 8 were made from c.1976, in the anodised version. And yours are from 1968...

It's not the first time I see these curious lenses, but I had not payed attention till now... Thanks!

Jacques.

These were experimental factory made. Very rare
Regards

This black ring from my J-8 №6815656:






I think it's factory made.

Thanks, Vorobaz and Luiz.
Is there a reason to make a special batch of these zebra Jup 8?

Jacques.

My apologies, I did not originally provide a source for this picture, breaking my own rules . Here it is:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Fast-Russian-JUPITER-8-50-f2-LEICA-FED-Zorki-M39-LTM-Lens-Filter-BOX-/361036993838?pt=Camera_Lenses&hash=item540f7b552e

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Originally posted by Vlad

My apologies, I did not originally provide a source for this picture, breaking my own rules . Here it is:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Fast-Russian-JUPITER-8-50-f2-LEICA-FED-Zorki-M39-LTM-Lens-Filter-BOX-/361036993838?pt=Camera_Lenses&hash=item540f7b552e

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"Access impossible due to legal restrictions...."
These mentions are more and more numerous on eBay France, even if there is absolutely no problem of "contamination".
I don't understand what happens...

Perhaps black and white is a problem in itself?

Here is what I have:http://www.ebay.com/itm/Error?item=361036993838&errid=17

Jacques.

Another interesting fact: in 1966 year we can see some J-8 fully blacked (experimental?):





like a fully black Orion-15 from 1966:








And serial numbers both it's 661***

Again there is a J-8M in the I-61 body... http://www.ebay.com/itm/1959-Fast-USSR-Red-P-JUPITER-8-50-f2-LEICA-FED-Zorki-M39-LTM-Lens-BOX-/361040880990?pt=Camera_Lenses&hash=item540fb6a55e

This seller have all kind of mix and match lenses,
Lomo T-43 in Fed barrel:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Russian-USSR-LOMO-Wide-Angle-M39-LTM-Lens-T-43-4-40-from-Lomography-Cap-/361040306858?pt=Camera_Lenses&hash=item540fade2aa
Helios 103 with Jupiter 8 parts:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Super-Fast-Portrait-Helios-103-1-8-53-Contax-lens-bundle-uniqe-Adapter-Sony-NEX-/361040299862?pt=Camera_Lenses&hash=item540fadc756

Good job I personally like these modifications

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Originally posted by okynek
...Helios 103 with Jupiter 8 parts

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May be conversely? Jupiter 8 has Helios 103 parts:







See the PT3615 http://sovietcams.com/index.php?-1090910983

I've made some of these type of hybrids-

Helios-103, LTM RF coupled using a close-focus helical for a Summar;
I-61L/D in Collapsible Contax RF Count, used a mount from a pre-war Sonnar;
5cm F1.5 Contax mt Sonnars in J-3 LTM Mounts;
5cm f2 Contax mt Sonnars in J-8 LTM Mounts.

And- 5-element Schneider Xenar from Karat mount to LTM, used a Canon 50/2.8 LTM focus mount.This lens was loose, found at a camera show for $30. Serial number is from the 40s.

http://www.leicaplace.com/showthread.php?t=153

Hi Brian!

Good to see you back!
Thanks for the details about your work: it explains that we can see hybrids (home or factory made) on eBay.

I hope you are not responsible for all!

Amitiйs. Jacques.