Strange Kiev IV

Hello,
I have found very interesting camera Kiev-IV from 1959 with stamped name in Russian and without syncro.

http://www.ussrphoto.com/resize/resize_image.aspx?ImgWd=800&IptFl=/UserContent/17112018_IMG_20181117_150502.jpg

http://www.ussrphoto.com/resize/resize_image.aspx?ImgWd=800&IptFl=/UserContent/17112018_IMG_20181117_150526.jpg

I have never seen such camera and would ask you to let me know, if anybody of you has such camera as well.

Strange things for me:
- stamped name only in Russian on Kiev-IV
- no syncro on Kiev-IV from 1959 (SSK-book shows such camera without syncro, but from 1957 only and with standard for Kiev-IV stamp in Russian/English)

One my acquaintance from Ukraine told me, that this camera is tuned Kiev-II with additional light meter. BUT why with changed rewind knob from Kiev-IV?

Strange, strange. Any ideas? Your opinion is appreciated.

Regards
Alexander

Very strange, indeed.
I had seen that camera on eBay, but I could not decide if I had to buy it or not![:D]
For me, it's possibly (probably?) a Kiev II with a IV cover (including the "turret" and the lightmeter, of course).
A lot of work, for an curious result.

On the other hand, I can't help buying all the Fed 1-s which are more or less in the same condition. My last one was a Fed 1 with a Fed 2 selftimer, a flash plug and ears for straps. So, [;)]!

Amitiés. Jacques.

My reply yesterday didn't arrive here. Sometimes the forum seems to be very slow or not responding. Vlad, what's the matter?

I have two of these transitional Kievs. One is a fake based on an 70ies Kiev (you can see this under the winding knob, the positions of some screws are different), the other one seems to be real. I think that left over parts were used to complete some cameras.

My latest find is a Kiev 4A (not 4) with a KIIV front mask. I have no idea if someone just transplated the mask to a different camera or not.

Ulrich


http://fotos.cconin.de

Hi all, Alexander posted this into a Soviet camera Facebook group and I said that it's probably an "upgrade" someone did on Kiev 2 or 3...

Ulrich, I am aware of the issue of the site being slow, I've talked to hosting provider they are saying the site is too busy which isn't the case, I think it's an issue with their server and they don't want to admit it, maybe it's time to change the provider...

Cheers,
Vlad

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For me, it's possibly (probably?) a Kiev II with a IV cover (including the "turret" and the lightmeter, of course).
A lot of work, for an curious result.
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Jacques,
it seems for me also to be Kiev II, but with completely replaced top of Kiev-4. It could be changed in some cameras repair workshop, anyway very professional made upgrade [:)]

Regards, Alexander

I've seen many of these "hybrid" cameras, assembled with parts and pieces of different generation models. Common practice, nothing unusual about it.
This looks like a Kiev II or III with a Kiev-4 top assembly.

I have/had Zorkis and FEDs with mismatched bodies and top covers. This is especially common with FED NKVDs. And I had a Kiev 4a with a 49xx serial number - someone replaced the accessory shoe only.