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Topic author: cedricfan

Posted on: 20080204141708

This camera was a topic here some weeks ago: the only fake Zenit?

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Reply author: Vlad

Replied on: 20080204142815

Luiz posted this before:

http://zenit.istra.ru/qa/qa-nonkmz.html

Vlad.

Reply author: cedricfan

Replied on: 20080204144351

And I see there hs been new additions to that KMZ-webbsite after I last visited it.
The Zenit DF-2 is also a Chinese Seagull.

I can't understand Russian, so I don't know what it says about Lomo and BeLomo "Zenits", but it is hard for me to think them as fakes, made under USSR ruling?
Also the rebagded Helios-lenses that were sold in UK by TOE are "legalized fakes" as USSR had a major share of TOE.

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Reply author: Vlad

Replied on: 20080204144913

They're not fakes, it says non-KMZ Zenits. [:)]

Reply author: cedricfan

Replied on: 20080204154541

OK, so that page is now more wider than only Zenit-fakes, including even non-illegal ones named similarly to KMZ-production. Whew, hopefully that is more understandable than Russian to me...
Very interesting topic, maybe I should include one more "Zenit"?


http://www.ussrphoto.com/UserContent/DSCF1672.jpg



My guess is Hanimex, and if we talk about Lieca and Feica why not even vice versa?

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Reply author: Zoom

Replied on: 20080204173009

<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="MS Trebuchet, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by cedricfan</i>
<br />...maybe I should include one more "Zenit"?
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Already included:
http://www.zenitcamera.com/qa/qa-nonkmz.html#fake

Reply author: okynek

Replied on: 20080204210031

Some time ago I was fighting for camera like this on eBay. I was convinced that it is Russian. It went for something like $100 or more. Was it you, Juhani, who bought it? [:)]

Reply author: cedricfan

Replied on: 20080204232246

No, if you weren't ebaying in Finland some years ago [:D]
This cost me roughly 30 USD then, so I guess it was a good investment [^]

And yes indeed, the Hanimex is alredy there. Plus my name, so I guess I have been extr blind [:o)]

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Reply author: Zoom

Replied on: 20080205063440

<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="MS Trebuchet, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by cedricfan</i>
<br />No, if you weren't ebaying in Finland some years ago [:D]
This cost me roughly 30 USD then, so I guess it was a good investment...
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See it also there:
http://www.sovietcams.com/index.php?357107369

Reply author: Luiz Paracampo

Replied on: 20080205140114

In South America, mainly in Brazil there were sold also the models DF-2 and DF-2M this last one has a LED indicator TTL meter Similat to Zenit 12XP but uncoupled to the speed dial.

Reply author: cedricfan

Replied on: 20080205142759

So it was Brazil where these SLR Seagulls were named Zenit?
I have always wondered what was the market area as they seem to pop up anywhere, but not often.
One faint guess was UK but then they would not be this rare. Then I was thinking of Australia as 2nd guess, but even then someone would know more?

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Reply author: AidasCams

Replied on: 20080205142906

<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="MS Trebuchet, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by okynek</i>
<br />Some time ago I was fighting for camera like this on eBay. I was convinced that it is Russian. It went for something like $100 or more. Was it you, Juhani, who bought it? [:)]
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Okynek,

I remember that auction very clearly. After the price climbed over $100 I was laughing a lot. [:)] The same was with me just few years ago. I was absolutely sure, that this Zenit compact is one more creation of LOMO experiments, so wanted to have one. Just half a year later I was lucky to buy one for $11 plus my first "neautral" feedback from eBay seller, who was very unhonest man indeed ... [:D]

Regards,
Aidas

Reply author: Vlad

Replied on: 20080205144002

Well that's how I bought this one [:)].. then realized it's Chinese and passed it over to Juhani... decent price for it too...

Vlad

Reply author: Luiz Paracampo

Replied on: 20080205145634

<font size="1">So it was Brazil where these SLR Seagulls were named Zenit?</font id="size1">
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Some of these cameras has its bottom engaved:
"Produzido no Brasil por BMA Industria Fotografica"
(Made in Brazil by BMA Photo industry)
This is a lie Really they changed the plastic bottom of the camera by another one made from black <u>Poliestirene</u> (low quality plastic) instead of (the thin and also breakable) <u>Polietilene </u> (although better) of the top. A real contraband intended not to pay the due taxes.

Reply author: okynek

Replied on: 20080206172416

So they made fake cntrobanda [:)]
Only for this this camera deserved place in collection!!! [:D]
There is another example :


http://www.ussrphoto.com/UserContent/zeniton.jpg

Reply author: Zoom

Replied on: 20080206175116

<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="MS Trebuchet, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by Luiz Paracampo</i>
<br />Some of these cameras has its bottom engaved:
"Produzido no Brasil por BMA Industria Fotografica"
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This is a lie.
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By BMA? LOL...

<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="MS Trebuchet, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by okynek</i>
<br />...There is another example :
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Zeniton? Wow! Nice name... ;) (Strongly: not an illegal...)

Reply author: Luiz Paracampo

Replied on: 20080207162742

<font size="1"><i>posted by Zoom:</i>
By BMA? LOL...</font id="size1">
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Do you know BMA?

Reply author: Zoom

Replied on: 20080208061757

<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="MS Trebuchet, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by Luiz Paracampo</i>
<br />Do you know BMA?
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http://www.bma.com.br/