This camera was a topic here some weeks ago: the only fake Zenit?
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02/04/2008 14:17
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02/04/2008 14:28
02/04/2008 14:43
And I see there hs been new additions to that KMZ-webbsite after I last visited it.
The Zenit DF-2 is also a Chinese Seagull.
I can't understand Russian, so I don't know what it says about Lomo and BeLomo "Zenits", but it is hard for me to think them as fakes, made under USSR ruling?
Also the rebagded Helios-lenses that were sold in UK by TOE are "legalized fakes" as USSR had a major share of TOE.
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The Zenit DF-2 is also a Chinese Seagull.
I can't understand Russian, so I don't know what it says about Lomo and BeLomo "Zenits", but it is hard for me to think them as fakes, made under USSR ruling?
Also the rebagded Helios-lenses that were sold in UK by TOE are "legalized fakes" as USSR had a major share of TOE.
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02/04/2008 14:49
They're not fakes, it says non-KMZ Zenits. 
02/04/2008 15:45
OK, so that page is now more wider than only Zenit-fakes, including even non-illegal ones named similarly to KMZ-production. Whew, hopefully that is more understandable than Russian to me...
Very interesting topic, maybe I should include one more "Zenit"?
My guess is Hanimex, and if we talk about Lieca and Feica why not even vice versa?
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Very interesting topic, maybe I should include one more "Zenit"?
My guess is Hanimex, and if we talk about Lieca and Feica why not even vice versa?
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02/04/2008 17:30
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Originally posted by cedricfan
...maybe I should include one more "Zenit"?
Already included:
http://www.zenitcamera.com/qa/qa-nonkmz.html#fake
02/04/2008 21:00
Some time ago I was fighting for camera like this on eBay. I was convinced that it is Russian. It went for something like $100 or more. Was it you, Juhani, who bought it?
02/04/2008 23:22
No, if you weren't ebaying in Finland some years ago 
This cost me roughly 30 USD then, so I guess it was a good investment
And yes indeed, the Hanimex is alredy there. Plus my name, so I guess I have been extr blind
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This cost me roughly 30 USD then, so I guess it was a good investment
And yes indeed, the Hanimex is alredy there. Plus my name, so I guess I have been extr blind
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02/05/2008 06:34
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Originally posted by cedricfan
No, if you weren't ebaying in Finland some years ago
This cost me roughly 30 USD then, so I guess it was a good investment...
See it also there:
http://www.sovietcams.com/index.php?357107369
02/05/2008 14:01
In South America, mainly in Brazil there were sold also the models DF-2 and DF-2M this last one has a LED indicator TTL meter Similat to Zenit 12XP but uncoupled to the speed dial.
02/05/2008 14:27
So it was Brazil where these SLR Seagulls were named Zenit?
I have always wondered what was the market area as they seem to pop up anywhere, but not often.
One faint guess was UK but then they would not be this rare. Then I was thinking of Australia as 2nd guess, but even then someone would know more?
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I have always wondered what was the market area as they seem to pop up anywhere, but not often.
One faint guess was UK but then they would not be this rare. Then I was thinking of Australia as 2nd guess, but even then someone would know more?
Smena rules
02/05/2008 14:29
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Originally posted by okynek
Some time ago I was fighting for camera like this on eBay. I was convinced that it is Russian. It went for something like $100 or more. Was it you, Juhani, who bought it?
Okynek,
I remember that auction very clearly. After the price climbed over $100 I was laughing a lot.
The same was with me just few years ago. I was absolutely sure, that this Zenit compact is one more creation of LOMO experiments, so wanted to have one. Just half a year later I was lucky to buy one for $11 plus my first "neautral" feedback from eBay seller, who was very unhonest man indeed ... Regards,
Aidas
02/05/2008 14:40
Well that's how I bought this one .. then realized it's Chinese and passed it over to Juhani... decent price for it too...
Vlad
.. then realized it's Chinese and passed it over to Juhani... decent price for it too...Vlad
02/05/2008 14:56
So it was Brazil where these SLR Seagulls were named Zenit?
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Some of these cameras has its bottom engaved:
"Produzido no Brasil por BMA Industria Fotografica"
(Made in Brazil by BMA Photo industry)
This is a lie Really they changed the plastic bottom of the camera by another one made from black Poliestirene (low quality plastic) instead of (the thin and also breakable) Polietilene (although better) of the top. A real contraband intended not to pay the due taxes.
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Some of these cameras has its bottom engaved:
"Produzido no Brasil por BMA Industria Fotografica"
(Made in Brazil by BMA Photo industry)
This is a lie Really they changed the plastic bottom of the camera by another one made from black Poliestirene (low quality plastic) instead of (the thin and also breakable) Polietilene (although better) of the top. A real contraband intended not to pay the due taxes.
02/06/2008 17:24
So they made fake cntrobanda
Only for this this camera deserved place in collection!!!
There is another example :
Only for this this camera deserved place in collection!!!
There is another example :
02/06/2008 17:51
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Originally posted by Luiz Paracampo
Some of these cameras has its bottom engaved:
"Produzido no Brasil por BMA Industria Fotografica"
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This is a lie.
By BMA? LOL...
quote:
Originally posted by okynek
...There is another example :
Zeniton? Wow! Nice name... ;) (Strongly: not an illegal...)
02/07/2008 16:27
posted by Zoom:
By BMA? LOL...
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Do you know BMA?
By BMA? LOL...
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Do you know BMA?
02/08/2008 06:17
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