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Topic author: nightphoto
Posted on: 20080429192213
Hello everyone,
I just added a list of serial numbers that I had to this entry. If you have a Zenit 122 Special Edition Titanium "50th Anniversary" camera, please add it to the list.
Regards, Bill
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Reply author: Vlad
Replied on: 20080429193036
Added mine but i have no 50 prefix.
Reply author: nightphoto
Replied on: 20080429205236
Vlad, That is weird! What is the lens serial number?
Regards, Bill
Reply author: Vlad
Replied on: 20080429205447
It didn't have original lens... I can take photos and post them here if you're interested.
Reply author: nightphoto
Replied on: 20080429205653
Ok... it is supposed to have the 50 before the number, so let's see a photo of the serial number if you can.
Regards, Bill
Reply author: Vlad
Replied on: 20080429210536
Reply author: Vlad
Replied on: 20080429211702
I have a theory maybe Zoom can confirm it.. my camera is one of the original 300 that were made in 92, and the ones you guys all got are from 93 and 94, they got 50 prefix because they did not want to put 93 or 94 prefix and mine has the original year prefix... thus the older die (Made in USSR)...
Reply author: cedricfan
Replied on: 20080429232331
Mine is 50920415 and a boxed original 1992.
Smena rules
Reply author: Vlad
Replied on: 20080429232651
Well then I either have a very early one or a fake one [:D].
Reply author: Guido
Replied on: 20080429234838
Hello Vlad
I don't know if it's a fake but maybe a sort of "first try" or so ... ;->
It's remarkable that the painted logo of your version has a little fault in it, maybe a problem with the stamp.
For the serial numbers given by KMZ one little remark: There are *not* production datas, but datas of the delivery of the items. This is also noted in the list pubished by KMZ. So I'm not so shure that all the 5092xxxx s/n are not produced in 1992. Maybe this special edition was put in stock because the price was higher than for other Zenit 122 models and so the selling goes over the next two years? It's only an idea about this ...
Best wishes - Guido
Reply author: nightphoto
Replied on: 20080429235741
All of the ones on the list have a 50 and then start with 92xxxx, so I think they are from 1992. I don't see any from 1993 or 1994 ? Yours doesn't look fake.
# 50920415 lens - # 92562130 Helios 44M-6 (Juhani Halmeenmaki collection)
# 50922670 lens - # 93298293 Helios 44M-6 (Sean Smith collection)
# 50922704 lens - # 93289857 Helios-44M-6 (okynek)
# 50923326 lens - # 984006 MC Zenitar-M2 (SovietCams collection)
# 50923533 lens - # 93219371 Helios 44M-6 (Tom Tiger collection)
# 50923558 lens - # 87017834 MIR 1-b (Bill Parkinson collection)
# 50923660 lens - # 91488802 Helios 44M-6 (SovietCams collection)
# 50925123 lens - # 93281843 Helios 44M-6 (Bill Parkinson collection)
# 50925693 lens - Helios 44M-6 (Illustrated in Princelle Book)
# 50926482 lens - # 89182898 Helios 44M-4 (Bill Parkinson collection)
# 50926935 lens - # 91159562 Helios 44M-6 (Mirfoto collection)
# 50928004 lens - # 93357880 Helios 44M-6 (Steve Berkowitz collection)
# 50925117l lens - # 90072043 Helios 44M-4 (AlexPhoto- on Ebay 2007)
# 92316563 Vladislav Kern Collection
And ... after the 92 yours has six more numbers, but the others have only four numbers after the 5092.... Your theory is interesting, but I'm not sure why anyone thinks that they were made after 1992 ? The lenses don't seem to be a reliable way to tell as they are all over the place and were probably often switched and interchanged.
We have had a discussion before at the ZCG, including Zoom, who has said records show that there were something like 6000 of these made, but compared to other cameras that were made in quantities of 6000, these don't show up very often (I think ???).
Regards, Bill
Reply author: Vlad
Replied on: 20080430000429
I'm puzzled at the fact that mine says USSR and all yours say Russia... really weird.. in terms of these show up often or not, I've seen maybe around 4 or 5 of these for sale for past year...
Reply author: Vlad
Replied on: 20080430000506
Guido, what fault in logo are you talking about? Some paint may have chipped with the age...
Reply author: Guido
Replied on: 20080430001217
Hello Vlad
<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="MS Trebuchet, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by Vlad</i>
<br />Guido, what fault in logo are you talking about? Some paint may have chipped with the age...
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Yes, you're maybe right. I've taken a closer look now and it could well be that some paint is missing after all this years.
Best wishes - Guido
Reply author: nightphoto
Replied on: 20080430005717
Juhani has the earliest serial number on the list which begins with "50" maybe he can look and see if his camera says "Made In USSR" or "Made In Russia". Since this was the time of the change in government, maybe this camera falls right in the change. So, maybe Vlad's example is the earliest on the list and the "50" was added when the country name was changed.
Also, the cameras with "50" have the serial number on the bottom and Vlad's has it on the upper back. But I have no doubt that Vlad's is not a fake as all of the logos appear to be exactly the same as my three examples.
Regards, Bill
Reply author: AidasCams
Replied on: 20080430011818
Reply author: cedricfan
Replied on: 20080430074251
<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="MS Trebuchet, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by nightphoto</i>
<br />Juhani has the earliest serial number on the list which begins with "50" maybe he can look and see if his camera says "Made In USSR" or "Made In Russia". Since this was the time of the change in government, maybe this camera falls right in the change. So, maybe Vlad's example is the earliest on the list and the "50" was added when the country name was changed.
Also, the cameras with "50" have the serial number on the bottom and Vlad's has it on the upper back. But I have no doubt that Vlad's is not a fake as all of the logos appear to be exactly the same as my three examples.
Regards, Bill
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Mine is made in Russia.
And a propable explanation for Vlad's serial is that it is a normal 122-serial. Maybe the top was broken & exchanged to a spare parts top, and painted to the SE-looks as the rest of the camera was that.
Smena rules
Reply author: cedricfan
Replied on: 20080430074652
Reply author: Zoom
Replied on: 20080430081726
<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="MS Trebuchet, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by Vlad</i>
<br />Added mine but i have no 50 prefix.
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Your camera was made in 1992.
http://www.zenitcamera.com/archive/zenit-12/index.html#zenit-122-50Reply author: mermoz37
Replied on: 20080430085607
hello,
mine is made in Russia ,
number 50 924892
and lense is 93 178377.
Reply author: Vlad
Replied on: 20080430093910
Zoom,
thank you for confirming my theory!! Everyone, the article says exactly what I thought! [:D]. 300 made in 92 (with 92 prefix), the rest with 50 prefix are made 93 and 94. I should be hereby known as a Theoretical Collectionist! [:D]. $10 a theory! [;)].
Bill, thank you for starting this topic, I have discovered yet another gem in my collection thanks to you! [:)]
Vlad
Reply author: nightphoto
Replied on: 20080430105338
OK Vlad, congratulations on your early example and correct theory! I have relocated your serial number at the top of the list and I added Alain's camera as well. Thanks Zoom for pointing at the informational page. As I looked through Princelle for other cameras with a production of about 6,000- 8,000 I see that these cameras are about as rare and show up about as often as this Special Edition Zenit.
One other thing I noticed was that Juhani's camera also has the serial number on the back instead of the bottom!
Regards, Bill
Reply author: Vlad
Replied on: 20080430180134
I added my images to the wiki entry
Reply author: cedricfan
Replied on: 20080501023912
<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="MS Trebuchet, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by Vlad</i>
<br />Zoom,
thank you for confirming my theory!! Everyone, the article says exactly what I thought! [:D]. 300 made in 92 (with 92 prefix), the rest with 50 prefix are made 93 and 94. I should be hereby known as a Theoretical Collectionist! [:D]. $10 a theory! [;)].
Bill, thank you for starting this topic, I have discovered yet another gem in my collection thanks to you! [:)]
Vlad
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IMPOSSIBLE!
Please look at my pictures, "Date of production 12 92" and 5092-starting number...
Or exception to this rule: SOME 5092-xxxx were produced & delivered already in the end of 1992...
Smena rules
Reply author: Vlad
Replied on: 20080501092416
I supposed it's possible the second batch started production still in the end of '92... my theory relied primarily that there was 2 batches, one original of 300 units with numbers without 50 prefix(of which I believed my camera was) and one additional with the 50 prefix.
Reply author: fotodk
Replied on: 20101225030823
Reply author: Vlad
Replied on: 20101225115547
Hello Dwi,
As far as I know the only "anniversary" piece is the camera body itself, the rest you can just get a regular Zenit 122 accessories/lens (lens preferably with serial # that stats with 92 or 93 ) and substitute it. Those are fairly freely available on eBay.
Regards,
Vlad
Reply author: Vlad
Replied on: 20101225115754
Well correction - except for the box that is special anniversary. but the accessories should be standard
Reply author: fotodk
Replied on: 20101225120705
nice. info sir,
i'm sorry my english not good, :D
maybe this camera for my collection,
dwikurniawan
Reply author: cedricfan
Replied on: 20101225135325
Yes, lens and case and strap is normal Zenit ones, so easy to get. The box is special, but I wonder how many really do value the box? From my experience a box and passport is higly undervalued!
Best regards,
Juhani
Reply author: fotodk
Replied on: 20110102033304
oh my god, after i test my camera.
have trouble. in shutter,
dwikurniawan
Reply author: Fred_L
Replied on: 20110110133940
I have 4 different units of this camera
50923238 with Helios 44M-4 2/58mm 834132. I think the lens is not the original one.
50921713 with Helios 44M-6 2/58mm 9346841. Full set boxed but cover on the box is missing.
50927286 with Helios 44M-6 2/58mm 93361246. Full set boxed
50922428 with Helios 44M-5 2/58mm 93309210. Full set boxed
I also have 2 other 122 I think they are fake (but nice!!)
One is Zenit 122a in light brown: 92162741 with Helios 2,8/28mm 6030668
The other is Zenit 122m military green: 99023900 with Industar-50-2 3,5/50mm 80080680
If interrested, I can make picture of these 2 cameras....
Fred
Reply author: fotodk
Replied on: 20110122084619
oh god, i has check my camera.
a circuit light meter not function. somebody can give me advice???
thanks = terima kasih (indonesian languages)
dwikurniawan
Reply author: cedricfan
Replied on: 20110228121747
Reply author: Omega
Replied on: 20110301081410
I wanted to buy this camera, but was last registered in HUUTO too, and I was late a few hours :-((
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Reply author: ThanasisP
Replied on: 20110322195926
Hi there everyone.
I also have an 122 50special edition.
On the bottom says: Made in Russia
Code:50924907
Lens code:93253954
Can you tell me the year of production?
-Great job everyone.
Reply author: Guido
Replied on: 20110322200705
Hello
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<br />Code:50924907<br />
Lens code:93253954
Can you tell me the year of production?
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Body: 1992
Lens: 1993
Best wishes - Guido
Reply author: okynek
Replied on: 20110325133107
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As far as I know all 50 years cameras sold only in very nice box and with lens.
This is most likely a "kotleta" quote
Reply author: regipix
Replied on: 20111111081309
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Hello everyone,
I just added a list of serial numbers that I had to this entry. If you have a Zenit 122 Special Edition Titanium "50th Anniversary" camera, please add it to the list.
Regards, Bill
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Reply author: regipix
Replied on: 20111111081725
Hello all
thought I would add my 122 50th to your list;
No 50926929, Lens 9339252.
best wishes
Regipix.
Reply author: Candelman
Replied on: 20120828095509
Hello. I have a Zenit 122K riding a MC HELIOS 44k-4.
From the pictures I've seen could be limited edition 50th Anniversary, but seems to have erased the logo.
Serial number is 95012616 body and lens 9520062
I would ask if you can help me identify it.
thanks
