One camera in 2 years but what a wonderful camera it is. I guess the case is not from this camera because it has big screw at the bottom. What is serial number of the lens ?
I've just received this from an ebay seller in Ukraine:
Bah! I've forgotten how to add photos.
Anyway, it's a Jupiter 8 from 1963. It only cost £24.99 plus £7 p+p. It seems to be working properly, although it doesn't look all that 'pretty'. I didn't really want to spend £60-£80, which seems to be the sort of price these things are going for quite often these days.
What is that Mepro-Kominar lens? In my opinion one of the good reasons (price being another) for buying a Zenit was the good lens, so here they have changed it?
I suppose that these Japanese versions of Zenit are not common? Bravo, Alexander. Nothing very interesting here, just a xth version of the Fed 1b, that time with a release button sharper than the other ones...
Wow this is a very nice addition Alexander! Very rare pair! The lens are Japanese, I guess only the bodies were exported and the importer put these as part of the package. I only have the "E" myself, still looking for Pro. Congratulations! I love the rebranded Zenits, it's almost like different countries do their own versions of Matryoshka. Fun to see
What is that Mepro-Kominar lens? In my opinion one of the good reasons (price being another) for buying a Zenit was the good lens, so here they have changed it?
Juhani, so far as I know the main porpose was to bring Kominar lenses to market so cheap as it possible, so the japanies bought the simpliest SLR-cameras and applied own Kominar lenses to them. These Meprozenit cameras with Kominar lenses had no competition in price.
The Albar, a very fine finding Did you know the link behind the name? Greek "alba" means white, and Albar is made in Belarus, "White-Russia" What is odd to my eyes is why they added the 1/1000 speed, was it really needed that much?
I own another one with #9315113. I suppose it means it has been manufactured 8 numbers before this one... It is not in my home for the moment, but I will check soon if it has 1/1000 too or not....
The cover seems genuine, with its s/n 210064 and the shutter box is good too. But the vulcanite is not, like the buttons. A camera which was mounted a bit lately, with spare parts, probably.
The vulcanite should be on the "Romashka" type, for this s/n. Fed 1f with a vulcanite of "Red Flag" type are correct too, but just after by the s/n. Then, the usual vulcanite takes place (like the one on this 210064) For these questions (and the buttons), see levonsa's site: http://ussrcameras.ru/catalog/631
The new one is on the right. In fact, both belong to the PT0820 group, by Aidas's classification. And both have Biogon optics coming from the same Zeiss batch.
But their KMZ bodies are slightly different: the stripe parts don't have the same measures:
thanks a lot Ulrich ! rare to find such a complete kit. With the box, the case, lens-hood, cap, passport ... and Leningrad-2 (active).But the thing that impressed me is the aesthetic and working conditions. :)
I don't replace curtains in FEDs NKVD. I'm not gonna use it. There are (in general in the world) a few better cameas for shooting. Sometimes I do this in common M39 Leicas.
Today a dream came true I found it at a local camera collectors fair, and the price was decent indeed. The seller was not especially into FSU-cameras, more like European oddities like Alpa, which he had a couple. So now its mine, for keeps
Yes, a flash sync socket. Actually a good place for one to be added, although nicest would be without. But it also shows the camera has been used, and not just sitting stored. And the shutter is so smoothly operating, simply amazing difference to FED and Zorki. Also the weight of the camera is incredible! But what is the meaning of "81" in the bottom plates?
Nice find!!! Congratulations... One of my TSVVS has Sync Socket too.. For sure, I would prefer without too....
Fred
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Yes, a flash sync socket. Actually a good place for one to be added, although nicest would be without. But it also shows the camera has been used, and not just sitting stored. And the shutter is so smoothly operating, simply amazing difference to FED and Zorki. Also the weight of the camera is incredible! But what is the meaning of "81" in the bottom plates?
Thanks, Alfa. S/n 200977. Nothing strange about that camera, except an extra part inside the bottom plate. Probably not important, but I will show that in a separate thread. Amitiés. Jacques.
Found this the last time. It's a mixure of a 1947 Kiev and a 1949 one and some later parts. After a discussion with altix it has a 1947 body shell and rangefinder parts and a 1949 shutter and lens. There are name markings with pencil under the film pressure plate and inside the top cover. The front mask must be later, early fifties. The history of this camera would be interesting but I know nothing about it.
Congrats, Ulrich. A 47 Kiev is always a rare camera, even if it's not completely original... I own a '47 one too, repaired (or remounted) with a 1949 shutter box. The rest is original and was seen by Altix too.
Jacques, thanks. Yes, an original one with all original parts would be nice. But as Altix says "a 47 Kiev with a 47 shutter is a miracle" :-) But even if it is not original, it was a bargain, I've found it in a "Konvolut" of Kiev cameras.
One more caemra with flash sync: Fed Red Flag 2 Yura cameras, probably fakes but we can see the top cover is colored in different grey (mate), especially on 984 One beautifull Fed 1-a
I recently bought a Kiev-4A #6603499T with Jupiter-8 #6604340T at ebay. The Jupiter has got a coating that seems to be more blue than comparable lenses. I was quite lucky to find another Topographical-Kiev (#6113396T) one week later. The second one comes with a ordinary Jupiter-8 from 1963. http://www.ussrphoto.com/UserContent2/2332019__DSC5764.jpg
In the wiki only 3 cameras are listed. Now we have 5... I own one 🙂 Vlad said a friend told him the camera was designed to take pictures from a plane. ´Topographical' camera : T. Jean
The Soviet lenses in the 1950ies do have a red "П" to indicate a single coating.
"T" on Zeiss lenses indicates a single coating, invented by Alexander Smakula (born in the Ukraine) for Zeiss in 1935. They used it until 1945 mostly for military optics. In 1940 the first Biogon and Sonnar Optics for the Contax Rangefinder with a "T"-coating were shown. By 1950 all Zeiss lenses were coated and marked with the red "T". Later they introduced the "T*" multi-coating.
Thank you, treehorn. This explanation seems more plausible to me than “tropical” or “topographic”. Otherwise serial number of the camera has 'T' as well and on the lens with russian inscription I would expect 'П' (просветленный), but not 'T'.
Looks like a Jena Contax? Serial number appears like a late model, bears all the traits of one looking at images in Minoru Sasakis 'Contax to Kiev'. Black painted surround is interesting, any sign of chrome plating on the back of the surround? Looks like and early 1950's lens serial number though...
Thank you, treehorn. This explanation seems more plausible to me than “tropical” or “topographic”. Otherwise serial number of the camera has 'T' as well and on the lens with russian inscription I would expect 'П' (просветленный), but not 'T'.
Sorry Alexander, that was a misunderstanding. To make it clear: the "T" on the Kiev (lens and body) has nothing in common with the "T" on the Zeiss lenses. The equivalent to the Zeiss "T" is the "П" you've mentioned.
Hello! I came across an interesting camera in my opinion ....
A black Jena-Contax - all alarm bells are ringing. My first thought was that it has to be a fake, especially considering the good shape of the camera. But at a closer look many things seems to fit: - black cover of self-timer - groove in focus wheel - frame counter looks more Zeiss than Arsenal style - accessory shoe has Jena style
According to Bernd K. Otto ("Von der Carl Zeiss Jena-Contax zur Kiev", PhotoDeal 34, 2001) there have been some samples of the Jena Contax in creme and black. They were presented at the 1950 fair in Leipzig with serial numbers 27801-28100. That would fit too.
A beautiful and rare version of the Jena Contax! The beige one is much more popular (and numerous) with probably aroud 20 samples made. I have 10 Jena Contaxes "half black" in my data, like this one, and one or two all black, including the Sonnar...
To go back to this s/n 28081 (thanks, Alexey!), another interesting thing is the Sonnar already engraved 50mm. An late series for this f2 Jena Sonnar, delivered in january 1951 and which should always be engraved in cm by the Thiele! The date is interesting: it could give a good idea for the mounting of this camera.
New in my collection, the Jena Contax from 1950 (serial number 27858). Together with it's sister a 1951 KIEV II. The Contax comes with a rare Carl Zeiss Jena marked Torpedo finder and a Sonnar 4/135 from July 1949.
I found a Kiev IVa without rangefinder, selftimer and Flash-Sync. It came without lens, but the mount shows significant signs of use, especially at the outer bayonet. The serial number is 6001343, that fits quite well to these here: http://www.novacon.com.br/asquini1/kiev2.htm
Last for the FSU cameras, a curious Kiev 1950. It was equipped with a "no name" front plate when I bought it. Happily, I had a correct 1950 Kiev front to give it back to its identity.
Hi Jacques, can you please open a thread regarding your Kiev that had no-name plate, can you please post a photo of a the noname plate that you have left over, especially I am interested in the bottom portion of it that has a cut out for the tripod socket. Thank you!
Xya, Marcolin, nice Zorki 3M and F21!! Congratulations!
Shining new, Ulrich! But you have a special secret to prepare your cameras for photo! There is a "new" Fed 1b here, s/n 11823. Not far from your 11959, Jed! It will be perfect between my 10020 (window with a hollow on the upper part) and my 12840 (no hole on back; brown vulcanite). A photo:
Hi Juhani! Glad you got the package safe and sound! , it is very funny that you got your camera back considering the fact that I bought it from you originally! LOL! I have gotten a duplicate since then so this one went back into trading pile. I believe the same thing happened with me and Ulrich at some point in the past where I got my own camera back. Very funny! The Soviet Collector's cycle!
Vlad, yes, that happened to me too. Recently I bought a KIIV IIIa on ebay and wondered when I looked at my camera list that I've sold it in 2006. Now I got it back for less money :D
Some months ago a very early Contax II arrived here, serial Z 50474. As I know the numbering starts with Z 50000, so it seems to be the 474th Contax II! It comes together with a Jena Contax box, original Jena Contax manual and early postwar Sonnar 4/135. A strange combination but I am happy about the box and the manual, only a few manuals are known to exist.
just arrived in my collection
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