New Lens Jupiter 3 LTM

Hi,

Great news, LTM 39 Jupiter-3 available new and still Russian made :

http://shop.lomography.com/en/jupiter-3-plus

Thanks Jed!
A lens for the "souvenir", and new, if not cheap...

Jacques.

They ask 600 Ђ for it. It's the best price for a new ltm 50 1, 5 lens. I may buy one in the near future.

The C.V. F/1,5 LTM 50mm lenses were around Ђ400,- which is a more realistic price for such a lens. The same for that Russar+ 20mm lens. My Elmarit 21mm F/2,8 was Eur. 550,- and is far superior then a Russar, even with +. Alternative a Zeiss 21mm F/2,8 or F/4,5. Like most of their products Lomography is far overpriced. For Ђ400,- and maybe Ђ50,- for a LTM-M adapter it could be a best seller.

Robert
"De enige beperking in je fotografie ben je zelf"
http://gallery.fotohuisrovo.nl/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/fotohuisrovo/

A lens design dating from the twenties of the last century, which is still rewarded and appreciated by many. That's something I really like. Somehow things get kind of artificial in the digital storm of today.

Great bringing back lenses with character, but there is so much more KMZ is capable of. A lot of great lens designs are still kept in the fridge, which never saw the production.

Just for fun is knowing the Helios 40/2 New is sold as
Made in Germany Somnium 1.4/85
see at:


http://www.meyer-optik-goerlitz.de/somnium-f15-85mm/

Regards
LP

I ordered one, should be here this week. More than half the funds were in my Paypal account from working on J-3's on request. I'm more excited about this lens than the Zeiss C-Sonnar, which uses Bertele's Ernostar 1-1-1-3 formula. I will be comparing the new lens with my original J-3's,



Cherry-picked over the last 12 years.

Eager to se your comparisons, Brian!
Thanks!

Jacques.

Hi,
Just got one in hand this morning in the Lomography Paris store (only 2 in stock !). Build quality is high. I may have the opportunity to take a couple of pictures with it soon.

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Originally posted by jed


http://shop.lomography.com/en/jupiter-3-plus

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So the company is called Zenit now, no more KMZ?
There is the logo on the lens cap.
Does it make sense to put this lens on a digital camera, for example the shown Olympus with 17.3mm x 13mm sensor instead of 36mm x 24mm film? I think it's ok to buy a cheap old lens and use it digital, but to buy a new lens which isn't made for digital in the first place seems not so good.

Thanks, Jed. I didn't even know there is a Lomography store in Paris! Ah, these countrymen!
At first sight, the bokeh is the same as on a Sonnar/Jupiter, which is quite normal.
http://www.lomography.fr/magazine/318151-silhouettes-et-visages-des-portraits-shootes-new-jupiter-3-plus

Amitiйs. Jacques.

At least I can catch up my French language now. :)

Robert
"De enige beperking in je fotografie ben je zelf"
http://gallery.fotohuisrovo.nl/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/fotohuisrovo/

Hi,

Here's two pictures (Sony A7R ; both lens wide open):

Jupiter 3 (1963)



Jupiter 3+


Don't take it too seriously because I don't ! Both Hand held shoot.

I may send files, please send PM.

Best,
Jean

Interesting.
I suppose you focussed on the "1 appareil achetй = ..." Jed?
Globally, the two photos are similar, perhaps a small difference of correction in the shape of the light, behind the flashes?

The store seems full. I have to visit it!

Jacques.

It seems to be the second lens has a little bit more resolution. I can be also a new type of coating. For the rest they are similar.

Robert
"De enige beperking in je fotografie ben je zelf"
http://gallery.fotohuisrovo.nl/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/fotohuisrovo/

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Originally posted by jed


http://shop.lomography.com/en/jupiter-3-plus

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So the company is called Zenit now, no more KMZ?
There is the logo on the lens cap.
Does it make sense to put this lens on a digital camera, for example the shown Olympus with 17.3mm x 13mm sensor instead of 36mm x 24mm film? I think it's ok to buy a cheap old lens and use it digital, but to buy a new lens which isn't made for digital in the first place seems not so good.

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This is with my 1950 KMZ Jupiter-3 on the M Monochrom. Wide-Open at F1.5. Looks pretty good to me!

My lens is scheduled to be delivered tomorrow. I'm glad to hear the build quality is high. The lens has a 14-day return policy. I'll know with the first picture if it is a keeper or not! I have high expectations for this lens. If it matches this KMZ- will prove they can build them like they used to.

Some people complain about the price of this lens. If Nikon brought back the Nikkor-SC 5cm F1.5 it would be $1500. Canon would never think of bringing back their 50/1.5 Serenar (Sonnar formula) lens, if they did- would be $1500. This new J-3+ is chrome over brass, focuses to 0.7m, and is made to the Leica standard for $649. I could never see paying $1500 for an AF-Nikkor 58/1.4, but some people do. I bought a Nikkor 50/1.2 Ais. This new lens is in that category- it's a real lens, brass and glass, no plastic.

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Originally posted by Brian

This new lens is in that category- it's a real lens, brass and glass, no plastic.

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No plastic is really good. I have no idea why many brands use plastic trash, with plastic they are really not worth the money for me.
This Jupiter also has 13 blades.

Hi Brian!

Of course, this lens is a real lens, made of glass and metal, no plastic. Happily! Like any other Jupiter 3 or Sonnar 1,5/5cm...
I am just a bit doubtful about the price. We meet on the net black Jup 3 which are in a new condition for 200/250Ђ. The only justification (for me) would be some novelty: is this lens better coated than a Jup 3? Is the calculation different, just a bit?

If not, I keep my Sonnars and Jup 3. And if I want to change, there are other LTM lenses which give a different rendering. A Voigt Nokton 1,5/50mm in quite new condition, for example (1st series in LTM). BTW, I own too the Nikon 1,4/5cm and the Canon 1,5/5cm, both Sonnars. Marvelous lenses. But I am OT, sorry!

In fact, we miss a new Russian camera to fit to that Jup 3 +...

Amitiйs. Jacques.

Jacques,

I've got it in my hands. Build quality is superb - no comparison with Black J3 or previous older J3. It deserves the "+". Also I doubt Brian will return it ;)

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Originally posted by jed

Jacques,

I've got it in my hands. Build quality is superb - no comparison with Black J3 or previous older J3. It deserves the "+". Also I doubt Brian will return it ;)

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OK! I shut my mouth!

I advise people to stay away from the Valdai lenses, unless you are good at taking them apart. The Valdai lenses have great optics, but the build quality of the barrel and focus mount were all over the place. I've gone through Ten of them to get a really good one. Parted several out to move the optics to a ZOMZ barrel. The good one that I have required about ten hours to get working properly. The actual focus was off by 2m at 5m, the distance scale did not agree with the RF, and the helical could not drive the RF to infinity. The cure: polish down the mount, screw the helical in deeper, then re-index the focus ring. After that- reset the shim. On the Valdai lens: it was full of metal filings from the taps for the set screws. A 1975 ZOMZ "new old stock"- required a full CLA including a big change to the shim. Many of these original J-3's are in "like new condition" because no one could use them when they were new.

I should have the new J-3+ today.

I'll be comparing it with Sonnar formula 50/1.5's from Nikon, Zeiss, and Canon.