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Kristall

Created by okynek on 12/8/2007 8:25:03 PM
Last Edited by Guido on 7/2/2016 4:50:07 AM  
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Guido Studer
Guido

Switzerland
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Posted - Jul 29 2008 :  07:21:13 AM  Show Profile  Visit Guido's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Dear friends

We all know the Kristall with the "hammerhead paint". But in the book of Alexander Schulz you can find the desciption of a Kristall in chrome with the serial number 61021914. I've never seen such a camera offred on eBay or in any shop. Even Princelle don't say nothing about this variant. Do anybody knows other such cameras in chrome or it's a fake? What do you think?


http://www.g-st.ch/privat/kameras/bilder/schulz/buch/katalog0016.jpg
(Picture from the book of Alexander Schulz)

Best wishes - Guido
dmzi
30 Posts
Posted - Jul 29 2008 :  10:10:26 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
[quote]Originally posted by Guido Studer

Dear friends

We all know the Kristall with the "hammerhead paint". But in the book of Alexander Schulz you can find the desciption of a Kristall in chrome with the serial number 61021914. I've never seen such a camera offred on eBay or in any shop. Even Princelle don't say nothing about this variant. Do anybody knows other such cameras in chrome or it's a fake? What do you think?


http://www.g-st.ch/privat/kameras/bilder/schulz/buch/katalog0016.jpg
(Picture from the book of Alexander Schulz)

Best wishes - Guido

Hi, Guido!
You can look here:
http://www.fotoua.com/1cameratip.php?seek2=111&seek1=84&usl=&usl1=&seek3=2&rd=&st=
Number 61 017708
All the best, dmzi
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Guido Studer
Guido
Switzerland
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Posted - Jul 29 2008 :  10:51:54 PM  Show Profile  Visit Guido's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Hello dmzi

Thank you very much for this link. So this camera is pretty rare. A very interesting site by the way!

Best wishes - Guido
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okynek
759 Posts
Posted - Jul 29 2008 :  11:33:20 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
It hard to see on last picture, but I think that this Kristal is painted. I have early Kristall painted not by hammerhead emal, but by gray paint. My is 100% original with paperwork.
I do not believe that chrome plated Kristall existed, because pressure molded top from aluminum can not be electro plated as easy as stamped top from brass(?) as on Zenit 3M,
see also:
http://www.ussrphoto.com/Wiki/default.asp?WikiCatID=69&ParentID=1&ContentID=490&Item=Kristall
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dmzi
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Posted - Jul 29 2008 :  11:54:31 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Guido Studer

Hello dmzi

Thank you very much for this link. So this camera is pretty rare. A very interesting site by the way!

Best wishes - Guido



Yes, mr. Guido, site is really interesting. ALEX has done the large work. Though, on my sight, there there are some obvious fakes.
All the best, dmzi
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Guido Studer
Guido
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Posted - Jul 30 2008 :  12:35:33 AM  Show Profile  Visit Guido's Homepage  Reply with Quote

Hello okynek

Thank you for your answer. It's may be a missunderstanding due to my bad knowledge of the english language ... It's very possible that it's light gray painted, I maybe better call this "chrome painted"? So "chrome" for me is just a color, not a term for a technical method (i.e. metalization).

Best wishes - Guido
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Guido Studer
Guido
Switzerland
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Posted - Jul 30 2008 :  12:37:23 AM  Show Profile  Visit Guido's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Hello dmzi

Thank you for your warning about the fakes. I will keep that in mind when studying this site.

Best wishes - Guido
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okynek
759 Posts
Posted - Sep 23 2011 :  9:21:39 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Dear friends! Many times I read in literature, and in original Kristall manuals that this camera was produced with Helios 44 lens. Never see one until now.
I just receive Kristal with presumably original Helios 44 lens. The originality of the camera and lens can be proved by the everready lather case.
I wonder if anybody else have such cameras? How rare they are?


http://www.ussrphoto.com/UserContent/2392011_DSCF0723.JPG


http://www.ussrphoto.com/UserContent/2392011_DSCF0724.JPG


http://www.ussrphoto.com/UserContent/2392011_DSCF0729.JPG


http://www.ussrphoto.com/UserContent/2392011_DSCF0728.JPG

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Yuri Boguslavsky
fedka
USA
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Posted - Sep 24 2011 :  08:40:04 AM  Show Profile  Visit fedka's Homepage  Reply with Quote
I got exactly the same Kristall a year or so ago. Looks pretty. I am somewhat partial to the Helios-44 and was happy to see it on the Kristall. I do not know if it is really rare, but safe to say it is uncommon.
Yuri

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Originally posted by okynek

Dear friends! Many times I read in literature, and in original Kristall manuals that this camera was produced with Helios 44 lens. Never see one until now.

I wonder if anybody else have such cameras? How rare they are?

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Colin
urban-wombat
Australia
71 Posts
Posted - Sep 24 2011 :  9:23:49 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I did see one in one of the city camera shops that had been re enamelled in metallic red .. looked very nice.. two things .. way out of my price range .. and it wasn't working.
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Colin
urban-wombat
Australia
71 Posts
Posted - Sep 25 2011 :  01:30:13 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Could it have had the same problem as this one where the paint has scuffed off and someone has just repainted it.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/KRISTAL-Russian-Soviet-SLR-Camera-INDUSTAR-50-3-5-50-/170688615687?pt=Film_Cameras&hash=item27bdd59507
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