S-13

Here's an a nice S-13 on eBay with a cartridge if anyone is into aerial cameras.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=260180638904&ssPageName=STRK:MEWA:IT&ih=016

Vlad.

How much this cameras going on eBay? I like to bid, but can not pay to much for this camera and I do not like to spoil price for someone who willing to pay more.

Not much, this particular one I think I was the only bidder on last time... It's hard to say with these.. can be $30 can be over $100...

Vlad

Thanks Vlad!
I'll bid on it.

YRA!!! (Hurray!!!)Thanks to Vlad I win this camera! Actually it is second C-13 in my collection. First one somehow is different. My does not have black cylinder on the front and it seems to have different lens. Question to Vlad, what that black cylinder for? And how seller ship camera to you? He quotes me shipping from Czech Rep. $48. And it seems to be high. Shipping from Russia, as I know, cost around $15.

Okynek,

He was in US at the time of last sale to me, he travels back and forth from US to eastern Europe. His name is Phil Larsen he seems to bring these cameras back to US or sell them from Czech republic on regular basis, I am sure he will list another one in the near future.

In terms of black cylinder, mine has 2 small light bulbs in it, I would assume it's some kind of focus-assist device...

Also Vlad, you seem to have rigid information about this camera origin? Seller keep insist that this camera from Czech, not from Russia(USSR).

Yea, the unit that Yuri Boguslavsky has - it has the KOMZ logo on the cassette, so the origin of the camera is no doubt from Kazan'. As you know all the military technology in Eastern Europe was Russian so I'm not surprised at all that these were exported to Czechoslovakia as well...

This seller listens to the guys on the bazaars in Prague that make stuff up on the fly since they don't know the true origin of these cameras.. The fact that he's seen them mounted of Mi-2 choppers and MiG jets should indicate that these cameras were manufactured to be compatible with Soviet technology, also Yuri was saying that this unit also comes with a separate control panel that is also installed into the cockpit of the aircraft and connected to the S-13 via a special cable. It is possible that this particular Czech version was manufactured in Czech republic, but originally this unit looks like by all indications to be designed at KOMZ since that factory was known to be major military optical equipment producer.

Cassette on my camera has KOMZ logo too, but camera has no any indication of the manufactory (I can not find). I'm pretty sure camera is from Russia, and most likely as you say it from KOMZ. While possible second production line was in Czech.

In my opinion it is highly unlikely that KOMZ would only manufacture cassettes and camera was made somewhere else, since it defies the "Optiko" part in the Kazanskiy Optiko-Mechanichestiy Zavod. :) Plus these cameras are highly specialized for the different parts of it manufactured in 2 different countries...

Agreed! By the way, do you know how to take cassette out of the camera? Cassette in my camera has same serial number engraved on the lid as camera has. I can open cassette inside of the camera and can load film, if needed, but I was not able to get cassette out of the camera. And so far I am getting impression that this cassette is not removable. I do not want to ruin camera by forcing cassette out. How about yours?

Mine had no cassette, Phil (the seller) just found one for me and it's on its way.

I'll let you know once I receive it if you want.
Vlad

Well if your camera came without cassette then cassette is definitely removable. I just need to find how?

I'll look for a release button tonight for u and post what I find

hi,

i have 2 c-13 cameras and 1 s-13. my first c-13 ( in black ), with komz logo, have 2 lens, 50mm and 100mm,4 filter, 2 cassettes. my other c-13 ( in green ) is in a wooden box with all accessoirs (lens,filter,cassettes, finder and other). the s-13 ( in grey )is also in a wooden box.
price for only a camera with 50mm (collection): 100-150$
price for a camera with 2 lens and not all accessiors: 261$ ( price guide kadlubek n°5 )
price for a camera in wooden box: over 300$

the c-13 is a standart camera for aircraft in later 1945.for mig-9, mig-15, mig-17, mig-19, su-2, yak-25, yak-120
i have seen an other variation of the c-13 on ebay last year, a c-13-100, an other variation can you see in a homepage, go to google, over photo c-13-300!

here are photos from my cameras

Very interesting! Fantastic Indeed ! This camera was probably destinated to Czech Air Forces .

Oh Wow! Thanks for posting these! May I add these to the catalog entry! I see you have the KOMZ version, it definitely proves my point from the earlier discussionthat this camera is of Soviet origin

Vlad.

Sovietcam: thank you for posting into catalog, and welcome to the site. Would you mind posting a separate thread introducing yourself and telling us what you collect, your name and where you are from. We'd like know each other on personal level if that is possible since our group is so small.

Thank you!
Vlad.

hi luiz,

yes i have that camera from cssr, the camera isn`t used. also the other box.

best regards
mike