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Luiz Paracampo
Luiz Paracampo

Brazil
2002 Posts
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Posted - Nov 07 2007 :  3:41:58 PM  Show Profile  Visit Luiz Paracampo's Homepage  Reply with Quote
People!
Two good articles about underwater cases were just placed in the site of Mr. Abramov. They are:
In http://www.photohistory.ru/UWboxes-SF-3-1960.html
An article of A. Massarski from Sovietskoe Foto magazine, and
In http://www.photohistory.ru/UWboxes-SP-2-1962.html
An article of A.A, Rogov from Sportmen-Underwater magazine
Very interesting to see.

Vladislav Kern
Vlad
USA
4252 Posts
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Posted - Nov 07 2007 :  3:56:25 PM  Show Profile  Visit Vlad's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Thank you Luiz for posting these links.

I am surprised by the roughness of that mechanism connection. In Massarki's Leningrad enclosure he mentions that the spring motor is wound by connecting a valve on top of the box via a metal(!!) spring inside the box with bent out ending that just sits on top of the wind crank of Leningrad and winds it by simple friction.. There is no mention of any kind of rubberized medium in between. Wouldn't it scratch the heck out of the wind crank? Maybe it's more elegant than that, but by looking at illustration and the description it sounds quite clunky.

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Luiz Paracampo
Luiz Paracampo
Brazil
2002 Posts
My Collection

Posted - Nov 07 2007 :  4:15:32 PM  Show Profile  Visit Luiz Paracampo's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Yes!
He gives also drafts and dimensions of how it works. I found much more interesting the firing mechanism with trigger. See that this box is a Kind of "universal" receives Leningrad all types of Zorkis, FEDs and Kievs with proper connection.
The spring will never scratch the knob no rubber needed. When you go winding the camera, the spring tights around the knob without any scapement In the reverse sense it naturally looses becoming idle. Very intelligent! Try a spring around your finger. You will be surprised!
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Vladislav Kern
Vlad
USA
4252 Posts
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Posted - Nov 07 2007 :  4:28:03 PM  Show Profile  Visit Vlad's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Very interesting concept! I guess I have much to learn in mechanics! I applaud your engineering skills, Luiz!
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okynek
759 Posts
Posted - Nov 08 2007 :  10:34:59 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I wonder if anyone tried use this box underwater? How are the pictures and overall experience?
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Vladislav Kern
Vlad
USA
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Posted - Nov 08 2007 :  10:43:35 AM  Show Profile  Visit Vlad's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Hey Bill, next time you taking a bath, take one of those things with you! I know you got this particular one on your shelf. Let us know if it makes bubbles! LOL!
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Luiz Paracampo
Luiz Paracampo
Brazil
2002 Posts
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Posted - Nov 12 2007 :  6:04:01 PM  Show Profile  Visit Luiz Paracampo's Homepage  Reply with Quote
More interesting yet. undewater picture with no underwater box!
http://www.photohistory.ru/SovPhoto-1958-b.html
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Bill Parkinson
nightphoto
USA
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Posted - Nov 12 2007 :  6:26:25 PM  Show Profile  Visit nightphoto's Homepage  Reply with Quote

Luiz,
Nice old way to do it! When I was younger, living on Long Island, near New York City, I have seen people do something similar with clear heavy-duty plastic freezer bags and using a haze filter to go over the lens and seal the hole cut on the side of the plastic!



Regards, Bill

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Luiz Paracampo
Luiz Paracampo
Brazil
2002 Posts
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Posted - Nov 12 2007 :  8:41:02 PM  Show Profile  Visit Luiz Paracampo's Homepage  Reply with Quote
The ingenuity of man is endless.... Here lives the fascination.
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Zoom
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Posted - Dec 10 2007 :  11:29:59 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Luiz Paracampo

Two good articles about underwater cases were just placed in the site of Mr. Abramov. ...


The newest page: http://www.photohistory.ru/UWboxes.html
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BERRY alain
mermoz37
France
814 Posts
Posted - Dec 10 2007 :  11:58:32 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
and a picture i shoot in Prague museum from a diving box for lubitel (i published in a french magazine)

and what my friend made whith epoxyde and bicycle wires !!!
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BERRY alain
mermoz37
France
814 Posts
Posted - Dec 10 2007 :  12:37:17 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Mr Abramov missed Kiev II housing (i provide one to J. Daniel, last year)
but you know , nobody is perfect...!
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BERRY alain
mermoz37
France
814 Posts
Posted - Dec 10 2007 :  12:40:23 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
by the way here is for EKRAN 1 movie cam:

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okynek
759 Posts
Posted - Dec 10 2007 :  10:21:12 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Would it be OK to put this beauty to Wiki? It must be there!
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BERRY alain
mermoz37
France
814 Posts
Posted - Dec 11 2007 :  03:09:00 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
yes , my pics are free but i cannot found (understand) what mean "wiki" ....sorry! would you inform me ?
kindly
Alain
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Vladislav Kern
Vlad
USA
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Posted - Dec 11 2007 :  09:10:41 AM  Show Profile  Visit Vlad's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Alain, term "wiki" is used when you describe collaborative web sites like this one where anyone can add and edit the catalog of entries. What Okynek meant is whether you would be kind enough to create an entry in the catalog for this camera in the Movie Cameras section.

Vlad
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