Home | Profile | Register | Active Topics | Members | Search | FAQ
Username:
Password:
Save Password
Forgot your Password?


 All Forums
 General Discussion
 Collectors and Users Open Forum
 Leica copies at Westlicht
 New Topic
 Reply to Topic
 Printer Friendly
Author Previous Topic Topic Next Topic  
rkaipov
Germany
38 Posts
Posted - Jun 09 2016 :  07:58:28 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Dear Experts,

can you say anything about the strange Zorki at http://www.westlicht-auction.com/index.php?id=4 , click on Leica copies ?

Thank you
Jacques M.
France
2599 Posts
Posted - Jun 09 2016 :  08:37:43 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote

Our rule is rather not to say anything when a camera is in auction, not to interfere...
That said, as it is written, it's a Leica copy made from Russian parts... It's not the first, not the worst I've ever seen!

Amitiés. Jacqueq.
Go to Top of Page
Lenny
496 Posts
Posted - Jun 09 2016 :  08:52:33 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by rkaipov


can you say anything about the strange Zorki



That's just a phantasy, special, but not so special to pay so much money for it.
A very usual lens from 1954.
A Zorki/Fed mix with Zorki-C wind knob, Fed frame counter, Fed rewind clutch lever, Fed Vulcanite, Zorki bottom plate and so on and on.
It's amazing how Westlicht describes a fake, "almost unkown from 1957".

Edited by - Lenny on Jun 09 2016 09:04:03 AM
Go to Top of Page

G.Franco Giordano
Francesco
Italy
35 Posts
Posted - Jun 09 2016 :  09:43:14 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
In the Space cameras section there is a wonderfull Leningrad Space with MIR-1 lens.
Go to Top of Page

Alexander K.
AlexanderK
Germany
590 Posts
Posted - Jun 09 2016 :  3:16:52 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Jacques M.


Our rule is rather not to say anything when a camera is in auction, not to interfere...


Jacques,
you are right,it is no fair to discuss it before the end of auction, but if it is obviously a "fantasy item" it is fair to point it.

Regards, Alexander
Go to Top of Page
Jacques M.
France
2599 Posts
Posted - Jun 10 2016 :  03:04:41 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote

Yes, Alexander.
It's why I answered the question, too. I really wonder how this famous seller can propose such a phantasy camera...

Jacques.
Go to Top of Page

Fred_L
France
226 Posts
Posted - Jun 11 2016 :  08:39:11 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Hi!
Are you talking about lot 277?
Fred
Go to Top of Page
Lenny
496 Posts
Posted - Jun 11 2016 :  09:21:13 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Fred_L

Hi!
Are you talking about lot 277?
Fred



Yes sure Fred, lot 277, Zorki Standard.
Go to Top of Page

Fred_L
France
226 Posts
Posted - Jun 11 2016 :  10:22:47 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Thank you Lenny

I got it
Go to Top of Page
Jacques M.
France
2599 Posts
Posted - Jun 11 2016 :  11:27:20 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Happy for you, Fred!

Jacques.
Go to Top of Page

Fred_L
France
226 Posts
Posted - Jun 11 2016 :  11:38:40 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Thank you Jacques
Have nice we
Fred
Go to Top of Page

Alfa2
Poland
349 Posts
Posted - Jun 12 2016 :  02:11:36 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
For myself the best is Left Hand Leica Ia (made from FED).
Many parts are "left handed", frame counter goes to the opposite side so scale is reversed, arrows on both knobs shows the opposite direction etc.


Edited by - Alfa2 on Jun 12 2016 02:49:48 AM
Go to Top of Page
Jacques M.
France
2599 Posts
Posted - Jun 12 2016 :  03:14:33 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Alfa2

For myself the best is Left Hand Leica Ia (made from FED).
Many parts are "left handed", frame counter goes to the opposite side so scale is reversed, arrows on both knobs shows the opposite direction etc.



Yes. I remember my surprise when I saw it on the Princelle for the first time. Just in imagination, the mechanism inside... What a work!

Go to Top of Page

Fred_L
France
226 Posts
Posted - Jun 12 2016 :  03:36:40 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
There were a lot of desirable cameras...
TSVVS and so on...
About left hand copy, I bid on this camera but auction increased too much quickly for me..
Not a Leica copy, but you surrely noticed the quality of the Sport? (#431)
Fred
Go to Top of Page

Alexander K.
AlexanderK
Germany
590 Posts
Posted - Jun 12 2016 :  07:51:48 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Fred,
this Sport seems to be in excellent condition, but it was unfortunately repainted in blue (may be also refurbished). The leather covering is not original.
Such new recovering on WestLicht we have seen already on Gelveta some years ago.

Regards, Alexander
Go to Top of Page

Fred_L
France
226 Posts
Posted - Jun 13 2016 :  10:52:57 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Alexander,
Thank you for your message
The camera seems to be black and covering seems to be dark blue on my screen. Do you mean camera body is also dark blue?
Fred
Go to Top of Page
Lenny
496 Posts
Posted - Jun 13 2016 :  11:10:01 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
One good thing about Westlicht, the photos from previous auctions can still be seen, you only need to find the lots and auctions.
Go to Top of Page

Alexander K.
AlexanderK
Germany
590 Posts
Posted - Jun 13 2016 :  11:47:42 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Fred_L


The camera seems to be black and covering seems to be dark blue on my screen. Do you mean camera body is also dark blue?



Fred,
I mean the covering. I have also one in dark green (s/n 16119). It looks fascinating, but... Before we don't find any papers to prove existence of such cameras, they are only painted ones .

Regards, Alexander
Go to Top of Page

Fred_L
France
226 Posts
Posted - Jun 13 2016 :  12:17:06 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Alexander,
Thank you very much..
I did not notice at first the coverring was blue!!!!! Due maybe to my age.........
But I was really surprised about quality of the body. I have several other Sport in my collection and none in such a shape.....
Low serial number too....

Fred
Go to Top of Page
  Previous Topic Topic Next Topic  
 New Topic
 Reply to Topic
 Printer Friendly
Jump To:
USSRPhoto.com Forums © USSRPhoto.com Go To Top Of Page
Snitz Forums 2000
Google