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Michel
France
217 Posts |
 Posted - Jun 03 2008 : 11:57:53 AM
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Hi all,
I just put in Wiki a newly bought Kiev 4.
As you can see, the lightmeter has no edges of rigidity.
Has anybody any information about this?
Many thanks to all of you.
Best regards,
Michel.
http://www.ussrphoto.com/UserContent/IMGP0362 - copie.JPG
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Vladislav Kern
Vlad
USA
4252 Posts
My Collection
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Posted - Jun 03 2008 : 10:36:04 PM
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Hi Michel,
I am not so sure we can call this preseries, this is just an early variation if the difference would be missing embossed lines on the top bezel.. Quite a few camera have their differences in the first year compared to later production... unless someone objects I will rename this entry to "early version". |
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Vladislav Kern
Vlad
USA
4252 Posts
My Collection
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Posted - Jun 03 2008 : 10:37:09 PM
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| Also serial # seems to be in the regular production range, although first year, but fairly late 5000-something is probably not a preseries anymore if there ever was one.. |
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okynek
759 Posts |
Posted - Jun 03 2008 : 11:04:20 PM
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This quiet unusual modification by may opinion.
This part is made from sheet of metal using mold and punch press.
Mold is expensive part to make. So if mold was finished then should exist many cameras with same cover. But AFAIK this is the only camera to date with such cover surfaced.
So possibly mold was not finished and it was used to make one or more try-out runs to see how cover fit to the camera. After try-outs mold usually go for final adjustments.
IMHO cover on this camera possibly came from such try-out.
Could be and other possibilities.
Great collector's camera to have! |
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Vladislav Kern
Vlad
USA
4252 Posts
My Collection
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Posted - Jun 03 2008 : 11:49:23 PM
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| Agreed, but question is can it be called preseries? |
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BERRY alain
mermoz37
France
814 Posts |
Posted - Jun 04 2008 : 02:32:05 AM
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heeeep !
i possess the same Kiev ...(Michel saw it ...but HE is here THE specialist !)
i wander he ahd you can explain that 
(by the way , I have two fed 2 whith a "A" prefix serial number....why ????) |
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Michel
France
217 Posts |
Posted - Jun 04 2008 : 02:41:34 AM
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Hi Alain,
Maybe could you give the s/n of yours?
I think it could help.
And, by the way, I'm NOT the specialist here.
I'm learning,  and this place is the best place for that!
Regards,
Michel. |
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Michel
France
217 Posts |
Posted - Jun 04 2008 : 02:44:11 AM
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Vlad,
Thanks for changing the name of the entry.
It can even be changed again if necessary.
Regards,
Michel. |
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BERRY alain
mermoz37
France
814 Posts |
Posted - Jun 04 2008 : 03:16:53 AM
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I would say "here" in our small provincial country....not "all over the world" !!!
So, mine is : 591074 |
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Michel
France
217 Posts |
Posted - Jun 04 2008 : 05:45:09 AM
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Alain,many thanks for the correction.
"our small provincial country", OK.
10 square kilometers…… |
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Vladislav Kern
Vlad
USA
4252 Posts
My Collection
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Posted - Jun 04 2008 : 11:34:34 AM
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| Wow the numbers are very far apart, I'm started to think maybe a possible repair job with spare parts that were made either before or after the series... |
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Aidas Pikiotas
AidasCams
Lithuania
973 Posts
My Collection
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Steve
Bull Halsey
USA
229 Posts |
Posted - Jul 06 2008 : 3:25:20 PM
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For what it's worth, I too have an early Kiev iV, # 5804306, but it has the partitions.
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Michel
France
217 Posts |
Posted - Jul 08 2008 : 4:38:55 PM
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What about the screws on each side of the lightmeter ???
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Steve
Bull Halsey
USA
229 Posts |
Posted - Jul 08 2008 : 4:56:00 PM
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There are two screws on each side of the meter.
Steve |
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Bill Parkinson
nightphoto
USA
1027 Posts
My Collection
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Posted - Jul 08 2008 : 5:01:07 PM
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The brass screws on the camera on Ebay appear to be replacement screws. Probably this meter housing has been disassembled and the original screws lost, so replacements added.
Regards, Bill
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Michel
France
217 Posts |
Posted - Nov 22 2008 : 09:21:13 AM
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Hi all,
I found another Kiev 4 "early version" with no top edges on the lightmeter.S/n # 593947.
So we have for now here :
s/n # 58 05356 (Michel's)
s/n # 59 1074 (Alain's)
s/n # 59 3947 (Michel's)
(No competiton betwween Alain and me !! )
Which conclusions ?…
Regards.
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Aidas Pikiotas
AidasCams
Lithuania
973 Posts
My Collection
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Posted - Nov 22 2008 : 10:44:26 AM
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Hi Michel,
could I join your honourable company with my early Kiev-4 #57 1478? btw my camera comes without edges either ...
Best Regards,
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Michel
France
217 Posts |
Posted - Nov 22 2008 : 11:17:01 AM
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Hi Aidas,
You are welcome !! |
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Michel
France
217 Posts |
Posted - Nov 22 2008 : 11:23:53 AM
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Aidas,
I add your K4 to the list I made in the Wiki entry.
Regards,
Michel. |
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Michel Labaere
Michel L
France
6 Posts |
Posted - Nov 22 2008 : 11:42:50 AM
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Hello everyone,
I have the same Kiev as Michel's (it's the only one Kiev I own)
serial N° is: 5804953
So it doesn't seem to be a rare model?
Beginner collector |
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Michel
France
217 Posts |
Posted - Nov 22 2008 : 12:05:03 PM
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Hi Michel L.,
If you do'nt mind, I add your Kiev in the Wiki entry.
And… be very careful… Kiev addiction is a terrible disease !! |
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dee * [ adopted ] dowling
dee
United Kingdom
114 Posts |
Posted - Nov 23 2008 : 5:39:43 PM
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Hi
I am new here , but recently , I saw a Kiev 4 on e-bay without the meter cap ridges .
It was not working , but I had to have it .
On arrival , it is in really well worn condition with poor paint / leather and interior with busted shutter .Lovely black lined case though , and raesonably clean J 8 from the same year .
BUT I do not regret paying to have it shipped for USA to Uk , it was too cheap to attract duty !
The number is 5804172 .
dee |
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Michel
France
217 Posts |
Posted - Nov 24 2008 : 04:14:00 AM
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Hello dee,
Thanks.
I add your Kiev to the Wiki entry.
Regards,
Michel. |
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dee * [ adopted ] dowling
dee
United Kingdom
114 Posts |
Posted - Feb 03 2009 : 11:57:36 AM
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Hi Guys -
I have just seen a poor Kiev 4 1957 , with no ridges no 57 1131 .
If the vendor will drop to a sensible price it would be good to add to my '57 and '' normal '' '59 . I also have a 56 and 57 Kiev III a ... now I need a ' 58 and ' 59 !
Unless a '56 turns up , I would stop at these !
These may prejudice my Enigmas [ separate post though - can't afford them all !
dee
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