Sonnar lens 58 f1.5

No.
But I seen somewhere lately such a lens with these two big ears.
I try to find it again.

No idea of the serial number of the lens, Luiz? It would be interesting to compare with Thiele's listing.

Amitiйs. Jacques.

No data on numbers could be both the mysterous 14XXXXXXX or the 21XXXXXXXX but see another thread:

http://www.pigment-print.com/Fotografica/CJZ%20Sonnar%2060%20f1.5%20LTM/target1.html
Regards
LP

Thanks Luiz. I have already seen it.
If somebody wants my listing of these odd 1.5/5cm, or /5,8cm, or /6cm: please tell. I can send that by PM.

I have just discovered that my last 1.5/5.8cm (the one with the "slopy" rangefinder) is single coated in purple and blue. This is not said in the literature I have read about these lenses. The mystery becomes darker...

Amitiйs. Jacques.

Hello,

Happy to see that it is a connoisseur of Sonnars who joins us... Welcome!

I think by my datas that there were probably 500 of these lenses made (s/n from 1407002 to 1407485). I have two of them. They are the same, except for two features:
- the rangefinder barrel (screw or slope)
- the front lens (coating or not).

The Sonnarex are much more rare. I only knew one till now. What is the serial number of yours? Is it a LTM? Hope you will use it!

Amitiйs. Jacques.
PS: it seems your files don't work.

Dear Jacques ;)

thank you very much for your kind welcome :). I ll try to post it again. Yes it is LTM, its sn is: 1948510 ;) and it has very fine gravure.

I am having some problems with jpeg upload.

I ll try again

Best regards

Hello

@Jacques M.: You can look at the pictures by modifying the file names manualy. For example:

http://www.ussrphoto.com/UserContent/1422014_FB_Sonanrex_%20(1%20of%2013).jpg

should work when copyed to the address line of your browser (exchange all spaces with "%20").

@bezdan: It's a good idea to not use spaces in the file names when uploading.

Best wishes - Guido

Thanks, Guido . But I fear I am quite stupid concerning all that...
bezdan: sure of the number? 194xxxx and not 149xxxx? The only other s/n number concerning this ultra rare lens is 1498512.

Thanks. Amitiйs. Jacques.

So, my number is wrong: 1948512 and not 1498512.
Thanks.
Somebody of the Zeiss Society...

Jacques.

Hope it works now


http://www.ussrphoto.com/UserContent/1422014_Sonnarex.jpg





http://www.ussrphoto.com/UserContent/1422014_4.jpg

Absolutely beautiful!
And "fьr Leica": the first time I see that...

What means - 0 - on the beauty ring??

What is the weight of your lens? Mine are 187g (sloped rangefinder) and 183g (screw one). It can be important to know what the inside is made of...

Jacques.

I have just done it. Thanks.

Considering the weight, sure the barrels are not made in alloy...
Really, I doubt that Sonnarex and 1.5/5.8 Sonnars were made by the same... Perhaps the glass?

Your lens seems not to be coated?

Jacques.

Interesting lens. I have found this on the web: http://leica-users.org/v24/msg01511.html I don't know if you know that posting already. The guy there has a lens with serial number 1498512.

Ulrich

http://fotos.cconin.de

Yes, Ulrich, I had seen it.
It was posted by Marc James Small, from the Zeiss Society.

Wie geht's?

Jacques.

Another exotic 1,5/5,8cm Sonnar here:


http://www.ussrphoto.com/UserContent/3082016_DSCF2527.JPG

It was found on a 1949 Leiva IIIc "sharkskin". The seller could not tell me when the lens was put on the body.

This lens is coated (like the s/n 1407293). But it has a red "T" mark on the beauty ring. And the same 40,5mm screw mount for filters as the Zeiss original 1,5/5cm Sonnar...

http://www.ussrphoto.com/UserContent/3082016_DSCF2530.JPG

Sorry for the dust...
The three Sonnnars, side by side:


http://www.ussrphoto.com/UserContent/3082016_DSCF2529.JPG

From left to right: the original 1,5/5cm 2811301 and the "exotic" 1407059 and 1407293.
Note that this "new" 1407059 has too the six slot screw at the back.

If you have questions... I become a specialist about these non Zeiss Sonnars!

Amitiйs. Jacques.

Back to this topic always about the 1,5/5,8cm Sonnar s/n 1407059.
Altix dismounted it and made the scheme of the lens:


http://www.ussrphoto.com/UserContent/1222017_Sonnar1407059.jpg

The different parts of the lens are mounted from the front towards the rear. Seeing the complexity (and the number of these lenses: certainly around 500), probably the work was made by Zeiss workers who had "found" spare parts...

Thanks, Altix.

Jacques.

Another fake Carl Zeiss Jena Sonnar in Contax mount. It came with the additional detachable ring.


http://www.ussrphoto.com/UserContent/1692017_2.JPG


http://www.ussrphoto.com/UserContent/1692017_3.JPG


http://www.ussrphoto.com/UserContent/1692017_4.JPG

Thanks, Altix. So, another exotic Sonnar, in Contax mount, that time... The detachable ring is rare and interesting too... What was it for, exactly? And what does the beauty ring read?

Amitiйs. Jacques.

Dear Jacques, the beauty ring mimics the standard one. It is written there "Sonnar 1:1,5 f=5cm Carl Zeiss Jena Nr . 3144117". The use of 3 in the beginning of the serial was probably dictated by imitation reasons. Of course the focal length is not 5 but rather 6 cm.

The filter ring does not fits for 40.5 mm screw-in filters or sun shades. Probably the additional ring served as some kind of adapter for 40mm slip-on filters. By the way, such filters and caps are more typical for post war West Germany (BW, Lifa, Schneider). Can it be the indication that the faked Sonnars were produced in West Germany?

One more observation - this Sonnar is perfectly adjusted for use with Contax camera. I am not sure if this is true for Leica 58 f1.5 Sonnars.

altix

how about na Hexanon 60mm 1.2 ?
https://www.ebay.com/p/Konica-Hexanon-60mm-F-1-2-L-Mount-Type-Leica-L39/1524543140
Regards
LP