Start s/n 5800366

Hello everyone,

I guess I am a lucky guy. I bought this start without knowing that it is the very 1st version. It has a very small s/n 5800366.It is a very good number for Chinese. Some Chinese are obsessed with numbers. A car license plate with a good number could sell for much higher price.
This Start has some details difference even from a 1959 version.

I still don't know how to attach photos. I will upload images from other sites later.

Cheers,

Zhang

Yes, this is very early vertion. 1958 was first year of Start production and little bit more the 1000 cameras was made that year. You should put pictures to wiki!

Zhang, there is an early start already in the catalog:

http://www.ussrphoto.com/Wiki/default.asp?WikiCatID=5&ParentID=1&ContentID=57&Item=Start+%2D+Early+Version

It has glass knobs on top in contrast with the newer one that is all metal..I guess people were cracking these a lot so they replaced them with more durable ones.

Vlad.

But this one is '59... I wonder if there are more difference between 59 and 58... can you tell by looking at the picture of 59?

The early Start has a plexiglass or lucite top on the winding knob. I don't think it cracked, but probably got scratched up a lot.

Regards, Bill

Vlad,

I can only see a difference. the rewinnd release button on my 58 camera is smaller with collar around it, while this 59 version is the same as my 1961 Start.My 58 Start also has two screws at the back of the pentaprism, and a metal film pressure plate.

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But this one is '59... I wonder if there are more difference between 59 and 58... can you tell by looking at the picture of 59?

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Ah! So there there are a few subtle mechanical differences.. thanks Zhang!

interesting Start cameras...

this one is hand made whith hand drawing engraved KMZ logo....
but only #60xxxxx...sorry

ooops...

here is

Wow! this what I was hunting for so long without success I'm not clear only is this turner hand made or it made by KMZ? If by KMZ how many was prodused?

And would be possible put detail pictures of this attachement to wiki please ??

I thought KMZ made these turrets as well?

Vlad.

ok ...some details:

and what about that ?:
for me ..a very bad , good idea...for use

just for info : my pictures are free , use it as you want (just put on "alain & Claire Berry collection courtesy" please)

This is another picture of the same Mermoz37's Start, shown by himself at Notre-Dame d'Oй exhibition in nov. 2005.
Photo taked with an Helios 40 around f:5.6 on TMax3200 film (poor indoor lighning conditions !)

Wow! Great pictures! Thank you very much for posting them!!!!
So, this turner was made by KMZ? Indefinitely? Any info when and how many was made? Did Princelle showed same unit?

Hello mermoz37,

Many thanks for your generocity. This is a very special camera. Amazing indeed. I am not clear how do you fire the shutter? I only saw a button for the normal lens, but how about the other lenses?

Kind Regards.

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just for info : my pictures are free , use it as you want (just put on "alain & Claire Berry collection courtesy" please)

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note 1: there is a trigger on handle and then a lever system , you can fire whith any lenses.
note 2 : the KMZ logo is hand engraved (not exactly shape as factory logo.
note 3: this in Princelle's is property of J.Daniel , my old friend , and the brother of mine (little bit different on shaft)

Many thanks! I think many French and Italian people are interested in Russian cameras.I saw quite a few Italian sites with rare and interesting Russian cameras.I saw some early Kievs in Venice that were not for sale!

Cheers,

Zhang

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Originally posted by mermoz37

note 1: there is a trigger on handle and then a lever system , you can fire whith any lenses.
note 2 : the KMZ logo is hand engraved (not exactly shape as factory logo.
note 3: this in Princelle's is property of J.Daniel , my old friend , and the brother of mine (little bit different on shaft)

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note 3: this in Princelle's is property of J.Daniel , my old friend , and the brother of mine (little bit different on shaft)

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Yes I see different handle in Princelle! So known at list 2 existing turners! May be more? Anyone?