'FED' aerial lens

Have you seen this lens before?
who made it and when?
http://www.ebay.de/itm/FED-100-100mm-lens-for-airplane-camera-Russian-Soviet-USSR-/301351219957

I have a similar lens #48073948 I got as FED 100mm, I believe it belongs to a S-13 aerial camera.
http://airandspace.si.edu/collections/artifact.cfm?object=nasm_A20010592000

Yes, this lens is from C-13 camera:
http://ussrphoto.com/Wiki/default.asp?WikiCatID=17&ParentID=1&ContentID=228&Item=S%2D13+Photo+Machine+Gun+Camera+Czech+Export

I had asked the seller of one of these lenses. He thought it had been made by KMZ. By the serial number, it seems logical.
Probably we have somewhere a thread about that question on USSRphoto, I think.

Jacques.

As I understand this lenses are direct descendants from prewar FED 100MM lens:
http://ussrphoto.com/Wiki/default.asp?WikiCatID=87&ParentID=2&ContentID=317&Item=FED+100mm+f%3A6.3
Most likely at list some of these lenses made by KOMZ. I'm not sure if any of these lenses was made by KMZ. Lenses what I have on 2 of my C-13 cameras do not have manufacturer marking, but one of the C-13 cameras has KOMZ logo, so on sure at list some of the cameras made by KOMZ. I have also suspicion that some of the C-13 cameras and probably lenses made in Poland and/or in Check Republic.

You are right Okynek: KOMZ and not KMZ. An O missing.
I doubt concerning a Fed making.

Jacques.

Two aerial lenses, a 100mm and a 50mm should arrive here soon.



The 100mm is well known. What about the 50mm?

Jacques.

Hi Jacques, I've seen both of these on an S-13 camera. How about a Polish (I think?) export of this lens?





Cheers,
Vlad

Yes, curious. All the 100mm I have seen were engraved in cyrillic.

For me, it's the first time I see an "aerial" 50mm. But I am not familiar with these militaria items.

Amitiйs. Jacques.

Yes, the S-13's I've seen came with 100, 50 and BelOMO Triplet 78mm. I have the last one if you want to a photo..

Cheers,
Vlad

Source: https://skylots.org/6536015486/Fotopulemet-S-13-Obektiv-I-10-2-sht-1953-g

I had this lens or I have it still maybe. I don't remember if it was 50 or 100 mm but as I remember it was engraved in Polish.
Unfortunately I'm not able to find it now.

Triplet 75 for this camera? Vlad, I'm curious to see a photo!

It also used the FS-2 http://ussrphoto.com/forum/pop_printer_friendly.asp?TOPIC_ID=1281

Hello,

The lenses are here. Of course not usable on a usual camera!
They both are protected by a neutral glass to avoid any direct shock. And they are non coated.

After a short comparison, the 50mm has an eight blade diaphragm, like the Industar 10 (or 22). And the diaph is at the rear of the lens (always like the Industars, but unlike an Elmar).
The aerial 100mm has a diaph with 8 blades too (there are 10 on the regular 6,3/100mm Fed).

Difficult to say if these aerial lenses were derived from the regular ones, or not. I wonder too about the numbering of these lenses: 48085498 for the 50mm and 49072323 for the 100mm. If the two first ciphers probably point the year of making, it's difficult to imagine that several tens of thousands of these lenses were produced...

If you have ideas? These lenses are interesting by the questions they put...

Amitiйs. Jacques.

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Originally posted by Vlad

Hi Jacques, I've seen both of these on an S-13 camera. How about a Polish (I think?) export of this lens?

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Vlad, this is not in Polish. This is in Czech or Slovakai. They have very similar languages with the same local/regional letters e.g. № or и.
I saw the same lens but engravings were made in Polish.

So we have lenses produced somewhere and engravings were made in languages which depends on where lenses were exported.

Pierre, sorry for the delay, here are the pictures:





Alfa2 - thank you, I suspected that may be Czech as well, but wasn't 100% sure..

Cheers,
Vlad

Thanks for the picture!

1) this triplet 2.8 /78 was used in one of Peleng slide projectors.
2) S-13 camera was indeed also made by WZFO during the 1950 years , albeit engravings are in Czech language.
Regards