Hole in FED 1 pressure plate: any justification?

Hi,

My Fed-1 s/n 82782 stiil has a hole on the pressure plate. I wonder what is the latest one that still has a hole?

My FED 1c 115347 and my FED-S 115356 both have holes in pressure plates. And I just noticed that my FED 1c and my FED-S are only 9 numbers apart!! Not sure if it's of any significance...

Vlad

Hi Zhang,
In an earlier post on this topic Jacques mentions that some cameras with a serial number as high as 150,000 still have this hole in the pressure plate.
So I guess this was until 1941, just before the factory was evacuated, and seven years after production began.
My own personal thoughts are that the punch used by Fed to stamp out these parts was not modified when the outer hole in the body was discontinued, and that that the factory continued to use the punch as it was. It doesn't make sense to me that Fed would have produced 150,000 of these pressure plates so early in production.
Perhaps having to leave Kharkov then forced Fed to produce a new punch for the next production.
I will be home in the UK in two weeks time and will check my own cameras to see which is the highest serial number still with the hole in the pressure plate.
Best regards, Jim.

Vlad, my #109163 FED 1 does not have one... but my #101877 yes ?!

I am not sure we can come to any conclusion as both cameras could have been repaired but on the other hand, pressure plates are not really what I call wearing parts...

Best regards.

I just received this one and it does have the hole in the pressure plate but none in the back. It's also obvious that it needs "some work". Needs new shutter curtains, the mirrors in the RF are "shot" and the retainer on the shutter release is missing completely. I also would like to replace most of the cover screws, if I can find the right ones. Anyway, this "project" is #55253.....

Regards'
Frank....

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Hello,

Frank, you have a fine very early 1c (beginning c. # 55000).

About the holes, what I can say about the limits, considering my 29 Fed 1s:
-Hole in the back: my # 10020 has it, 12840 doesn't.
-Hole in the pressure plate: yes for the 127195, no for the 157694 which is an S.

Always about pressure plates, JLP and Fricke don't speak of holes. Pegorari in his booklets makes a difference between regular 1d-s and 1dS:
-hole up to c. 140000 for S-s only, without after,
-hole up to c. 175000 for regular 1d, no hole after (1e).

Perhaps we can notice too that the shape of these damned pressure plates changed a little two times:
-hole and a "leg" to fix the plate with a screw at the rear of the back of the body to prevent the plate from turning (the two holes must be in alinement). My 10020 has such a leg and I suppose all the 1a-s and first 1b-s have too. All "back holed bodies" must have this leg, for sure.
-hole without leg, for example my regular 1d 127195, the only other one I dismantled,
-without hole.

I agree with Nicolas: all that is probably not really significant: the limits beween holed/non holed plates can be broad...

Amitiйs. Jacques.

My example has "locating tab" on the pressure plate and a positioning screw, the head of which, engages the "U" shaped cut out in the tab. The screw is inserted from the inside and, is finished "flush" with the outer part of the case. While I'm here, can anyone tell be where I may find the parts I need (as mentioned in my previous post on this "thread") to restore this one?

Regards,
Frank...

Hi Frank,

Thanks for the right word: "locating tab" and not "leg".
For spare parts, you could try sovietcamera.com for the shutter curtains, nobbysparrow on eBay (shutter release ring), and micro-tools.com.
But you can use too "camera repair" through "Seller review and links" on this site.

Cordialement. Jacques.

Hi Frank,

Happy I could help.
Thanks for your kind message. And you are right: leg or tab, it works!

Amitiйs. Jacques.