Tair-11-2 question

11/11/2008 01:24

Hello,

I saw a black Tair-11-2 133/2.8 recently, but I could not find any information about it. I wonder what is the difference between it and the more common chrome finish Tair-11? Has anyone owned and tried this lens? Is it a very rare lens?

Thanks

Zhang

11/11/2008 04:01

TAIR 11- really ? I possess only a black TAIR 11 (same shape than aluminium )
if it is this one : no differences in quality but better look.a little bit more rare than white one.

11/11/2008 04:23

quote:
Originally posted by mermoz37

TAIR 11- really ? I possess only a black TAIR 11 (same shape than aluminium )
if it is this one : no differences in quality but better look.a little bit more rare than white one.

Thanks alain for you quick reply. Is your lens a Tair 11 or a Tair 11-2? I am curious why it is a 11-2?

Kind Regards,

Zhang

11/11/2008 06:09

Hello Zhang!
Tair 11-2 is a quite rare lens . I believe they were made in a single batch around 1972. The same optical formula of previous Tair but a complete different mechanical mount, including the "A" interchangeable mount to fit various cameras. (Zenit M39, Zenit K and Kiev N) the filter thread is now 55mm instead of the old 49mm
LP

11/11/2008 06:58

quote:
Originally posted by Luiz Paracampo

Hello Zhang!
Tair 11-2 is a quite rare lens . I believe they were made in a single batch around 1972. The same optical formula of previous Tair but a complete different mechanical mount, including the "A" interchangeable mount to fit various cameras. (Zenit M39, Zenit K and Kiev N) the filter thread is now 55mm instead of the old 49mm
LP

Luiz, You are great!

I know that you are interested in Chinese cameras and lenses. Here is a group of extremely rare Chinese 35mm cine primes made in 1970's FYI. Few people has ever seen these.

I can provide more information about htese lenses if you need.

Cheers

Zhang

11/11/2008 08:03

Tair-11A from my collection:

11/11/2008 08:51

Hello,
all what you say about the black TaГЇr 11-2 is very interesting.
I got one on E... a few months ago, just the lens, no case, no caps, no filters. But only 10 Euros in rather good condition!
Luiz says filter size 55mm, mine has 49mm and no removable lens mount, SГ©rial NВ° is starting with 03.
Could be an older model? Serial numbers on russian lenses are sometimes strange.
I shot some flowers with it this summer and I like the results.

11/11/2008 09:16

quote:
Originally posted by Michel L

Hello,
all what you say about the black TaГЇr 11-2 is very interesting.
I got one on E... a few months ago, just the lens, no case, no caps, no filters. But only 10 Euros in rather good condition!
Luiz says filter size 55mm, mine has 49mm and no removable lens mount, SГ©rial NВ° is starting with 03.
Could be an older model? Serial numbers on russian lenses are sometimes strange.
I shot some flowers with it this summer and I like the results.

Hi Michel L,

Thanks for the input. So you have a Tair 11-2? I don't think it was made in 2000. It could be from that small batch as Luiz mentioned. 10 euro is really a great price for such a rare lens.

11/11/2008 18:17

Hey all!
Tair 11 Tair 11-2 and Tair 11-A are illustrated on Princelle's book.
Note that only the version "A" comes with filtres.
Observe that Tair 11 was first made for Zenit M39, further for M42 still as Tair 11 . these were originally made in 55mm filter thread but had a factory made reduction ring for 49mm . Soon they decided to make Tair 11-2 exactly as the previous model, differing the -2 to be noted as a M42 version -They went to the black model still with the same external shape and further they removed the step down adapter being only a 55mm threaded filter mount. This last model received the "A" ring and soon they disclosed the magnificent version of Cedricfan
I used these lenses and they are slightly softer than Jupiter 11 (On top) and further Jupiter 37 versions.
regards LP

Hey Zhang! Give us characteristics of your Chinese shown lenses.
On time: I tested the Seagull DF1 Haiou 58 and Peafowl DF lenses and felt they are a replicate of the Helios 44.

11/12/2008 13:10

hi Luiz ,
where did you saw TAIR model 2 in Princelle's ? I try to see it ....

11/13/2008 08:15

quote:
Originally posted by mermoz37

hi Luiz ,
where did you saw TAIR model 2 in Princelle's ? I try to see it ....

I did not find it either.

This looks like a rare lens.

11/14/2008 03:26

So...Michel L. ,
would you please show us a picture of your TAIR 11-2 ?
I will be gratefull to have it (and Wiki too ??).
thanks in advance,
ALain

11/14/2008 14:35

Of course I will be with pleasure, I show here 1 or 2 pictures of this Taпr 11-2.
And in the Wiki as well.
I try to do it tomorrow.

Michel.

11/14/2008 15:52

Hello,
I have uploaded two photos of my Taпr 11-2 in the Wiki catalog, I tried to do it also here in a message, but I cannot.
May be I did it in a wrong way? If an helpfull member could explain me how to do it...
Excuse me for the very poor quality of these two pictures, I gave my digital camera to my son who is on holidays. I will do better pictures when he will be back.
Thanks for your indulgence.

11/14/2008 16:05

Hi Michel, don't use any spaces or parentheses in file names.

Vlad

11/15/2008 08:03

thanks Michel...we must wait for better front lens picture

11/17/2008 12:29

Hey Allain
Really there is no Tair 11-2 on Princelle's book but a Tair 11 (you do not know the fitting thread) with a 55mm filter thread Here the page photo for comparison.

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