Translation, please…

Hi Vlad,

When you shall have time to loose, could you tell me what this donative text says??

Thanks again and again !

Michel.

Hello Michel,

it says L.K. Klimenko in the day of 20th anniversary of Victory (WWII) from ITR Trest Proletarskugol(some kind of coal mining organization?? )

Cheers,
Vlad

"ИТР" stands for engineering-technical staff

Hi Vlad and SnuSmu,

Thanks a lot for your translation.

Sincerly,
Michel.

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Originally posted by Vlad

Trest Proletarskugol(some kind of coal mining organization?? )

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Proletarskugol' trust in Donetsk, Ukraine (after 1975 it stay a part of the Donetskugol' coal-mining complex).
Btw., Donetsk was founded in 1869 by a Welsh businessman, John Hughes... ;)

Thanks, Zoom.

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Originally posted by Vlad

...in the day of 20th anniversary of Victory (WWII)...

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Strictly speaking, the 20th anniversary of Victory, but not in the Second World War. In the Great Patriotic War (1941--1945).

Hi zoom,
please ...what's the difference ?.
Alain

I should say between "Barbarossa" in june 1941 and the end of WWII ?

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Originally posted by mermoz37

Hi zoom,
please ...what's the difference ?.
Alain

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WWII was a world war. It started in September 1, 1939* and ended in September 2, 1945**.
*) -- Some historians date its beginning 1938 or even 1937 (see the "Lugouqiao Incident").
**) -- Btw., since Japan has not signed with Russia the peace treaty, that, the WWII as though still proceeds till now?.. ;)

The Great Patriotic War ( http://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%92%D0%B5%D0%BB%D0%B8%D0%BA%D0%B0%D1%8F_%D0%9E%D1%82%D0%B5%D1%87%D0%B5%D1%81%D1%82%D0%B2%D0%B5%D0%BD%D0%BD%D0%B0%D1%8F_%D0%B2%D0%BE%D0%B9%D0%BD%D0%B0 ) was a war between USSR and the incorporated forces of continental Europe, led by Nazi Germany. It was a part of WWII. It started in June 22, 1941 and ended May 9, 1945.

"It was a part of WWII. It started in June 22, 1941 and ended May 9, 1945."

That's what I said…

For english speaking members, see here :

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eastern_Front_%28World_War_II%29

and there :

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Patriotic_War_%28term%29

…and for french people

(… et pour les francophones :)

http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Front_de_l%27Est_%28Seconde_Guerre_mondiale%29

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Originally posted by Michel

"It was a part of WWII. It started in June 22, 1941 and ended May 9, 1945."
That's what I said…

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Nope... ;) You said: "I should say between "Barbarossa" in june 1941 and the end of WWII ?"...
The end of WWII was September 2, 1945...

OK, Zoom.
I'm not a historian, as you are.

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Originally posted by Michel

I'm not a historian, as you are.

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;) Am not a historian too, we learnt this at school....

I spent only two months at school.
So…

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Originally posted by Michel

I spent only two months at school.
So…

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So, you do not have an elementary education? Strange, after all you are able to read and write... 8)

Getting OT but in the 70ies Finnish history teaching stopped somewhere in the early 1900. People who wrote history books forgot that we childrefn did not know that time, or the writers did not want to write about that period...
So even if I was in school for 12 years I know much less than many others!

Best regards,
Juhani

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Originally posted by cedricfan

Getting OT but in the 70ies Finnish history teaching stopped somewhere in the early 1900. ...

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How much I have understood from a short studying of this problem, in Europe the world modern history is not studied. It is strange...

Strange and very annoying for me who wants to know history!
And hopefully Russian history writing & telling does not get biased again like some have said might be happening. In history we must get all sides opinion to make one true story!

Best regards,
Juhani