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12/18/2011 13:08

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Hi Jacques!!

I bought it on ebay to a guy who is also a professional seller and who lives in Normandie..
I went to Limoges last friday
Very interesting sale... Only a few people in the room.. So most of item have been sold a starting price, except 2 or 3 very special items.
Not a lot of Russian cameras..
I got a Kiev IIIa and Jupiter 8 in good shape (light meter ok) for 36 euros and a very nice Salyut S with Vega and back for 60 euros. Only problem for this one, is that I see only one curtain on shutter...Not easy to fix..
As prices were very low, I came back with 2 full cases of different cameras.. I need to sell them now and buy new Russian cameras...
The best was a Nikkor QD-C 5.6/15mm AI like new...Not really Russian lens....

All the best

Fred

01/12/2012 14:32

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Jacques,

congrats to the 1948 KIEV.

Here are my 2 newest finds.

First a Zorki 3 with early serial number and screw in the middle under the rangefinder window:









I have installed new shutter curtains and now it works fine.

The second is a rarity I think. It's a Horizont Revue with matching box, the two filters, the hand grip, german papers and german instruction booklet! I have never seen a complete set before. Only the leather bag is missing.

An interesting thing: The name Horizont is written with a "Z" on the booklet and the camera itself, but on the box there is written in big letters "HORISONT-REVUE" with an "S" :-)





Unfortunately someone has removed all body screws (I think, I have replacements) and the release button has fallen out (but it was in the packet).


Edit: As I see on Aidas' site it is this one:

http://sovietcams.com/index.php?-2017518783
"6. Very uncommon version, under name "Horizont Revue" in Roman characters. Were released for W.Germany market. Very few early cameras have 1/250s markings on the top plate."

It has the 1/250s marking. So it seems to be a nice find :-)

Ulrich

http://fotos.cconin.de

01/15/2012 11:47

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Hi Ulrich!
I did not know there are "Horizont Revue"...
Your early Zorki 3 is fine: they are becoming rare now. And your lens is probably the good one by the datas. I bought my # 00707 without lens, and I have put on it a '52 one.

Amitiés. Jacques.

01/16/2012 15:05

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Jacques,

I knew about the Horizont Revue (I have seen one or two on ebay the last years), but I have never seen one (or a normal Horizont) with box and papers.

Yes, I think it's the original lens on the Zorki 3. 707 is a nice serial number, are you now looking for number 747? :-)

Ulrich

http://fotos.cconin.de

01/25/2012 16:34

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Martti,

great finds, specially the FED lens. I am looking for one of it too, but they are really rare to find.

By the way, most of the missing screws of the Horizont-Revue I could find in the packet, and for the other ones I have had replacements. Now it works and looks as new.

Ulrich

http://fotos.cconin.de

02/14/2012 13:22

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A very nice No Name Kiev arrived here today. It looks like new, even the matching leather case without name is like new. And it works very smooth.

It is from 1963, comes with a 1,5/50 Sonnar lens and has not the OCCUPIED engraving on the back! So which version is it? As I know the first series has the additional engraving, is from 1963 and has Sonnar lens, and the second series is from 1964 without the engraving on the back and without Sonnar lens or with Jupiter lens. And as I can see nobody has opened it before, so no mix of parts.

What's that? While inspecting the leather bag I found "USSR OCCUPIED GERMANY" printed inside on the leather strap of the bag. Has anyone seen this before?








Edit: Here's a picture of the leather strap:



Ulrich

http://fotos.cconin.de

02/14/2012 15:13

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Bravo, Ulrich!
I don't have such a "no name"...
BTW, what is the serial number of the Sonnar? It seems that some sellers put any Zeiss lens on this camera...

Amitiés. Jacques.

02/14/2012 15:33

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Jacques,

thanks. It's a post war Sonnar from Zeiss Ikon Stuttgart, a late one without the red coating marking. So it seems to be the original one. The serial number is 1170766. I have had two or three of them, their serial numbers are very different, some have only 5 digits, some have seven digits and the numbers spread wide. I don't know how Zeiss Ikon has numbered the Sonnars in post war times.
By the way, I haven't cleaned the camera until now, it comes out of the sellers packet in this state :-)

Ulrich

http://fotos.cconin.de

02/14/2012 16:10

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Hi Ulrich,

About postwar numbers, for CZ Oberkochen (Stuttgart):
- # 10000 to 500000:years 1946-50 (Opton)
- # 500000 to 1,1 Mn: years 51-53 (Opton)
- # 1,1Mn to 2,6 Mn: years 53-59 (CZ, except for Comecon sales)

For CZ Jena (East Germany), the numbers follow prewar ones:
- # 3 Mn to 3,2 Mn: 1945-49,
- # 3,2 Mn to 3,47 Mn: 49-52,
- # 3,47 Mn to 4 Mn: 52-55,
- # 4 Mn to 5 Mn: 55-58.

Here are the official numbers, not very precise, I confess. If it can help...

Amitiés. Jacques.
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