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07/12/2011 01:25

Hello Fred,
YES, the "Moment" cameras have the only serial number on the lens.

Regards, Alexander

07/12/2011 04:03

Hello Alex

Thank you for information...
I have been searching for so long time to find a second number on my bodies.....

07/17/2011 08:32

An interesting 1949 Kiev III not common.
A comparison between this one and a wartime Contax III. Soon!

Amitiйs. Jacques.

07/17/2011 09:07

Bravo, Jacques
rather rare camera.
I found Kiev-III from 1948 some time ago. Perhaps they have much in common.

Regards, Alexander

07/17/2011 09:29

Yours is much rarer, Alexander.

It has an "A" serial number?

Amitiйs. Jacques.

07/19/2011 12:06

My last born: a 1949 Kiev II.
More common than its brother 1949 III.
Jacques.

07/24/2011 16:27

FED 1948 ZORKI, unfortunatley without orginal lens...

08/07/2011 05:45

Zenit Labo: KMZ Logo Made in USSR on the sole

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08/09/2011 03:45

Labo is nice, I hope I will get it somewhere...

08/09/2011 08:32

Body from Russia, lens in Estonia. Both have serial 86...

08/25/2011 04:13

Here is my liliput, now looking for maliutka

08/27/2011 16:33

Another KIEV II from 1949. It comes with a collapsible Zorki ZK. There are some interesting details, Focus wheel like a Contax (with groove), rewind knob with 4 instead of 3 milled rows, but no more flatened "3" on focus helix and film reminder wheel (see pictures).

The collapsible Zorki has no serial numer inside (as the Sonnars) but it has an hand engraved number inside, the number is 197. So maybe this was the time when they went from Sonnars to self made Zorki lenses?

Another interesting thing is that the shutter has a hand engraved number too inside. It looks similar to the hand engraved number on my very early Kiev II from 1950 and the serials are only 2400 numbers different.

Does anybody know if there was a time when the shutters were numbered by hand? My first thought when I saw this number on the 1950 Kiev was that it was later made. But now when I see a similar engraved number on the 1949 Kiev I think this could be factory made.

Ulrich

http://fotos.cconin.de

08/27/2011 16:35

Alexander,

a great KIEV III! Specially the lens with it's serial number...

Ulrich

http://fotos.cconin.de

08/28/2011 02:16

Ulrich,

very interesting information. I have also a Kiev-II from 1949 with a collapsible Zorki ZK, BUT the lens has s/n 4900415 and DOES NOT have any hand engraved number inside.
The Soviets had to register all separate parts for the new Kiev-Contax cameras (and for another cameras as well

) and it could be possible, that since some time they started to register these lens-parts for some internal use too.

Regards, Alexander

08/28/2011 03:46

Very interesting, Ulrich!
Do you have a picture of the hand engraved number near the shutter?
It seems I have seen something similar on one of my 1950 Kiev II, but I don't remember exactly where it was...

Amitiйs. Jacques.

08/28/2011 04:23

Jacques,

I did not make a picture of the engraved serial number of the 1949 Kiev but one of the 1950 one. The 1949 serial engraving style looks similar.
To see that number you have to disassemble the camera partly (take off the top).

Ulrich

http://fotos.cconin.de

08/28/2011 15:44

Thanks, Ulrich.
Soon I will check on one of my early Kievs.

Amitiйs. Jacques.

09/01/2011 10:35

Today I got home FED-C "Komandirskij FED", serial 138730 carera and 26504 lens making it approx 1940.

Best regards,
Juhani

09/02/2011 11:04

Fine, Juhani!
With a hole in the press film, I suppose?

Amitiйs. Jacques.

09/04/2011 06:15

Yes!

Best regards,
Juhani

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