just arrived in my collection

Bravo!

For your Jup 12, I have two ones.
A 1952, which is a Biogon with Zeiss numbers. And a 1951 one, which is not, like yours. My two ones with the new barrel and yours with the former barrel.

Difficult to understand!

Jacques.

Jacques,

yes, that sounds strange with your J-12's. It would be interesting when Zeiss glasses were used for the last time in Jupiter lenses. A 1951 J-3 I own has Zeiss glasses inside.

Ulrich

http://fotos.cconin.de

I fear that no one knows exactly how KMZ used the stock of Zeiss material...
Probably they find out after some pieces they re used. My 1952 J12 would be in that case. I even have a 1974 J3 with Zeiss numbers . Certainly a question of repair...

I often ask eBay sellers about their ZKs, BKs and very early Jup: Zeiss numbers or not? By their answers, it seems that Zeiss glass parts could have disappeared first with the J8, then J11, J9, J12 and J3. But there is nothing sure...

Jacques.

Privat collection.

Very nice, but why do you need four? Isn't enough to have one of them?
Aleksey, could you list the s/n of cameras, please? Are they all with 1/1000?

Regards, Alexander

Impressive!
But I must say that I share Alexander's opinion. Unless cameras and finders are different, of course...

Amitiйs. Jacques.

I have to please you! All сameras and sports nozzle differ!

The sport finders are different? I did not know there were different series...
Perhaps you could open a special thread to show us some dйtails of these finders? It would be great...

Thanks, Alexey. Amitiйs. Jacques.

I have just bought my latest Fed S: an early NKVD c-S below s/n 60000. In fact, with the late 1b/early 1c vulcanite.

Probably it will be the last. When I began collecting Feds, some years ago, I was particularly interested by these S-s because of their particularities. But now, they become difficult to find and to buy...

Jacques.

Jacques, have you added the serial to the wiki?
Lens/camera serial pairs this low would be very interesting.

Just done for the camera.
It will be done for the lens as soon as I receive all that.

Jacques.

So, here is this last Fed S, early NKVD c type with the caracteristic vulcanite:



Serial number of the lens: 21446, which seems correct.
The infinity button has not yet found its right place, at 8 o'clock...

Amitiйs. Jacques.

Nice!

I'll update the statistics when I find the time.

Major score today at Chicago Camera show! Moskva-5 preseries, only 250 made, mine is #242

Wow! Congratulation, Vlad!
It is a really nice find! My chances to find this camera decreased again

Regards, Alexander

Thank you Alexander. I guess I just got very lucky.. and to find this in United States too!

Cheers,
Vlad

An early Jupiter 9 here. I had looked for it for two or three years.
In fact, a LTM Sonnar with a correct serial number: 2850958.
It has the "flat top" 3 and the "open" 4!



Amitiйs. Jacques.

I have received this morning a Fed 1e equipped with a Sonnar...



A Sonnar "home converted" from a Contax mount with a rear Fed ring (number 169933). Very well made: all is perfectly adjusted.
I love these cameras which were improved by their owners. The 1.5/5cm Sonnars were really the best lenses at that time. This one was delivered at the end of the war and is contemporaneous with the body.

Amitiйs. Jacques.

Very interesting conversion, Jacques!

Here's something that arrived today from Ukraine: A childrens optics constructor set made by FED with which you can make a lens, microscope, filmoscope, telescope and a spotting scope. Never seen anything like that before so I bought it

Much interesting!
I did not know either that Fed had made such sets.
Dated from 1980, if I read correctly?

That would explain a filmoscope, already seen for sale on eBay, declared made by Fed by the seller...

Thanks, Vlad! Jacques.