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Here's something that arrived today from Ukraine: A childrens optics constructor set made by FED with which you can make a lens, microscope, filmoscope, telescope and a spotting scope. Never seen anything like that before so I bought it

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Very Nice! There is a set from east- Germany known as 'Optik Baukasten' or 'Optik Montage Experiment' quite common.

Old-Stock pieces where sold in the nineties as well.

Three "new" lenses here.
All are of the Sonnar/Jupiter family.

First, a Jupiter 12 (one more) with the old external barrel and the Zeiss number. KMZ date: 1951.



Then, a 1939 Sonnar in a Jupiter barrel. Used without problem by the precedent owner: it is correctly shimmed.



And last, an early Jupiter 11, probably with Zeiss parts (I cannot dismount it to check).



I test them as soon as I can.

Amitiйs. Jacques.

Another picture of the same early Jupiter 11.



It shows the open "4" and the two screws which are typical of the LTM Sonnars and ZK. This Jup 12 is not an "ante dated" Jup, like some we can see on eBay...

Jacques.

Hi all

Some FEDs I received these days
As you can see, they need to be cleaned..
Of course, comments and informations ar welcome!!!!

Enjoy!

Fred

Congratulation, Fred!
Very nice FEDs. I find a little strange, that the 7xxx one has no flash shoe. It is uncommon for such serial number.

Regards, Alexander

Thank you Alexander!

I have no explaination about this flash shoe missing.. Maybe be Jacques has an idea?

Fred

Great acquisitions Fred, congratulations! I see you've been very active purchasing stuff lately

Cheers,
Vlad.

Regarding the photos of the Feds that Fred has posted and the query about the missing flash shoe on the 7XXX serial number Fed - I have a similar serial number (26 cameras earlier in the production run, at 7143). On mine, the three screws are present for the flash shoe but there is no shoe on the camera. As far as I can tell, I don't think it looks as if it's been removed by anyone who owned the camera. You guys are much more on top of this kind of debate than I am but I just wondered if with these early Fed 1b's the decision had already been made to install the flash shoe but for whatever reason there was an initial problem actually doing it with the first few 1b's. What do you think?

David03

Waow!

I absolutely love your Fed 1a, Fred!
One feels the incertainty of the period, the difficulty to make a Leica looking camera with a metallurgy not yet at its best... Please, don't clean it too much! But you do what you want, of course!

Concerning the shoe, there were some hundreds of 1b which were made without. It seems that Fed had not the machine tools which allowed to produce these cornered parts. Just the same for the 1a before. I own the s/n 7122 and 7373 which don't have it. Certainly, some users have it put on their cameras after.

A bit surprised by the position of the 2/50 lens on your S, Fred. What is the s/n of the lens? If it is too far from the lens one (lens in the 20/22000, for example), it could be an explanation.

Amitiйs. Jacques.

About the 2/50 lens, the s/n (29974, I hadn't seen it)corresponds with the s/n of the body (147763). Cf Christian's graphs:
http://ussrphoto.com/Forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=2353

So, I have no evident explanation. An old lensplate originally mounted on the body? A mix of parts during repairs?

Concerning your Fed 1a, you have now to offer a one-turn lens to your body!

Jacques.

Hello!
Fred! You have a great camera FED №7169. It is a pity that the lens is a little late and complies with FED snakeskin finish.
The earliest FED sled №7891 / Molotok 2012 /
Alexander you worried for nothing! FED №7169 gorgeous!
My congratulations !!!

Hi Alexey!

Nice to see you here!
Do you have an idea about the wrong position of the 2/50mm lens? A problem of lensplate? But, normally, there is a hollow behind which allows to place it in the right position, against the upper plate...

An interesting question!

Amitiйs. Jacques.

Jacques hello!
Seat ring, which stands in the chamera is not the same threaded lens №29974. When set to "1" hour leash even closes the viewfinder! It should not be! And the number №29974 does not quite match the camera FED №147763. According to our data is more suitable №32.000-33.000.
Jacques thanks for asking!

32/33000 for a body s/n 147763? Not sure.
32/33000 are the last 2/50mm lenses. But there will be many S-s after the 147xxx...
These last lenses would be more suitable for e-Berdsk bodies, I think... Though there is some dispersion in these numbers.

I rather think that the "seat ring" (= lensplate) is not the good one. Or was turned after repair.

Amitiйs а toi. Jacques.

Jacques

I have removed the lens plate
I supposed it has been mounted with 1/4 more turn after servicing.
But it is in good position.....

Fred

Fred,

Have you tried to cross lenses/bodies if you have other Fed S?
Here is an S which has the same problem as yours

http://cgi.ebay.fr/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=271620988070&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1423.l2649

Amitiйs. Jacques.

CYCLOCAMERA comes the last Weeks. In working condition, but lack selector diaphragm I guess ..
What form it may have?

Hi all!!

A few months ago, I have foud this camera, but I have taken pictures of it only today...
For sure it is a home made one...
It works, but I haven't tested it with film.
The shutter fires on both sides and it needs to be cocked only from right body lens.
Speed needs to be adjusted only on same side of camera, and it gives the same speed on the 2 shutters
Aperture needs to be adjusted on the two lenses separatly, so one has to take care
Please have a look at small metal part in accesory shoe. It's engraved 1 or 2, so I suppose it's important for film advance.

Enjoy!!

Hi all!!

Here is a strange Jupiter 8M in Kiev mount
Do you think someone has removed all black paint outside and inside the lens?
Thank you for your comments!!

Fred

Hi Fred !
Weird - I've never seen a Jupiter 8M like this !

I also have bought some curious Kiev items : a 1956 Kiev 4A and a 1963 Jupiter 8 (KMZ logo !).