Fed S

About Milos (one of my friends):
He is a medecin doctor in Vienna (radiologist..X Ray)

As an expert in auctions, and very good friend of P. Coeln (Leica shop), he is, since a very long time, at the best place to collect very rares item about soviet's cameras and lenses .
So , professionnaly , it is very easy for him to have a radiography inside cameras and lenses body , to detect fakes and originals.
After what he is a very pleasant man to communicate.
He as a fantastic collection in old lenses ( he is a specialist !)and soviets cameras prototypes.
whithout his courtesy,i cannot tell and show you there, what kind and how much cameras he possess, but you must believe me: it is a dream collection.

Hey people!
A FED Summar in our collection: http://www.ussrphoto.com/Wiki/default.asp?WikiCatID=28&ParentID=2&ContentID=657&Item=FED+Summar

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Originally posted by Jacques M.


Hi Aidas,
I confirm: some 3,5/50 rigids don't have any #.
Two sellers I asked for that explained that a non numbered batch was made very early in the fifties or late in the forties.

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Hi Jacques,
do you really mean that my Fed Macro lens was manufactured in early fifties? I always thought it's a prewar lens ...

Thanks,
Aidas

Kievuser

often saw Milos Mladek's name mentioned. Is he a famous collector of Russian cameras?

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A gift to our forum from Milos.
What could be the TSVVS 2, and a small description.
http://www.ussrphoto.com/Wiki/default.asp?WikiCatID=50&ParentID=49&ContentID=316&Item=TSVVS+2++The+Challenge%21

We are very happy to have Mr. Alain Berry as an active member in our community! After I saw the complete collection of Viktor Suglob I have had a sleepless week for sure. I can only imagine my feelings after seeing the entire collection of Alain&Claire Berry! Sleepless month, year ... etc.

Happy to meet great collectors,
Aidas

Hi Jacques,
I think you are correct about the FED-Zorki 1/1000 speed cameras and that it is likely that these shutters were from KMZ. That is a very good observation and I have not heard it before. So, this would also point to the direction that the 1/1000 speed shutters were available throughout the war and are probably original on the Berdsk engraved cameras that have it.

For your records, I have a FED-1 camera with Berdsk Engraving and 1/1000 speed shutter. The camera serial number is # 179349.
The lens is F 2.0 / 50mm and its serial number is #29484. The lot number of the lens is # 19. This camera looks to be original in every way, as far as I can see.

I can see no reason why production of the FED-1S would have stopped during either the late or early period of the Berdsk engraving and assembly. Still those "special" attributes of the camera would have been needed, war or not, and since the FED-Zorki of just after the war had these shutters, they must have been available. The 50mm F 2.0 lenses show no differences in any way between ones used on earlier FED-1S and the Berdsk engraved FED-1S, so possibly (probably) these lenses were already assembled when FED was moved to Berdsk, and they went with the other parts, bodies, and normal lenses.

I have often wondered about batch numbers on FED lenses of all kinds (since they never seem to make sense in a linear numerical way) and have thought that they may not be batches, but possibly something like an inspector number or production line number. Maybe these lenses were inspected or put on an optical testing machine of some type, and then when they passed as OK, they were stamped with a serial number and the inspector's personal number, or a production line number, so that if the lens was later found to be defective, the blame could be identified. But that is just my idea.

Regards, Bill

Many thanks!

I see that we have many great collectors on this forum. Mr. Milos has many extremely rare cameras. I saw his items listed on Princelle's book very often. Yes,many of you has a dream collection that an image is very hard to find, not to say the real cameras.

Best Regards.

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Originally posted by mermoz37

About Milos (one of my friends):
He is a medecin doctor in Vienna (radiologist..X Ray)

As an expert in auctions, and very good friend of P. Coeln (Leica shop), he is, since a very long time, at the best place to collect very rares item about soviet's cameras and lenses .
So , professionnaly , it is very easy for him to have a radiography inside cameras and lenses body , to detect fakes and originals.
After what he is a very pleasant man to communicate.
He as a fantastic collection in old lenses ( he is a specialist !)and soviets cameras prototypes.
whithout his courtesy,i cannot tell and show you there, what kind and how much cameras he possess, but you must believe me: it is a dream collection.

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Hi Aidas,

Could you post a link to Mr. Alain Berry's collection? I think I need to sleep less. But not for months, or years.

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Originally posted by AidasCams

We are very happy to have Mr. Alain Berry as an active member in our community! After I saw the complete collection of Viktor Suglob I have had a sleepless week for sure. I can only imagine my feelings after seeing the entire collection of Alain&Claire Berry! Sleepless month, year ... etc.

Happy to meet great collectors,
Aidas

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Hello!

To Vlad: All the serial #s of S are mixed with regular ones. The first true # I know for S is 56041, the last one 181306. So, an early S would be a type c from 1938 (c. 55000 to c. 95000). But it's only an opinion.
And thanks for that fascinating site!

To Aida: I have registered only four rigid macro lenses with #: from 12075 to 15136, mine is 14568. Non numbered seem to be more numerous, and one seller told me that these ones had been made in 1949, another one in 1950-51. Nothing sure!

To Bill: special thanks to you: your site always makes me dream...
Very happy you share my opinion about the 1/1000th shutters passing through WW2 to be mounted on Berdsks and Fed-Zorkis.

To Luis: A fine 2/50 Leica like lens! These lenses seem to be quite rare. I only know three of them.
Mine has a black front written "Summar 1/2 f=5cm N°690233 Ernst Leitz Wetzlar". This lens (stamped 21488/105 at the rear) is no doubt a prewar. As the front # corresponds to a real 1949 Leica lens, I think it was converted that same year.

About the # of 2/50 lenses: there is something strange. In the range 30000-33000, I find six 2/50 and four 6,3/100mm. As if 2/50 lenses had been lacking and an extra lot had been made, using partially the serial numbers given to the tele.
The other extra lenses have their own range which doesn't mix with an other.

Amicalement.
Jacques.