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                |  Vladislav Kern
 Vlad
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                | altix Ukraine
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                |  Alfa2
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                |  Vladislav Kern
 Vlad
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                |  Alfa2
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                      |  Posted - Jun 01 2016 :  04:10:11 AM     
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                      | Thanks Vlad, I was wondering if prices are high. But I can see it is not very rare and the prices are absolutely not high.
  
 
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                | Zoom 602 Posts
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                |  Vladislav Kern
 Vlad
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                |  Juhani Halmeenmaki
 cedricfan
 Finland
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                |  Vladislav Kern
 Vlad
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                      |  Posted - Jun 06 2016 :  2:30:32 PM       
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                      | Thank you Juhani, that's very useful, new information for me! The 8AM is great! Never encountered such camera! 
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 Vlad
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                |  Alfa2
 Poland
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                |  Juhani Halmeenmaki
 cedricfan
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                      |  Posted - Jun 07 2016 :  01:35:47 AM       
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                      | The AM is a mystery. Yes, there is some clearly "reproduced" ones in ebay, but the AM is not a commonly faked camera-model, like the black 8M is. So why hasn't the AM been discovered as a way to add value to a normal gray-8M, when black 8M is already out of interest?
 My AM has more correct text than the "8M" fakes, so why would this be better made than the popular black 8M is done? If it a reprinted frontplate, it would more likely have same faults than black 8M has.
 So I say it may be either real or fake.
 
 2nd ebay-link says "Seller refurbished" so he already says it is not original...
 1st one looks very typical way to try and sell an otherwise uninteresting & cheap camera...
 
 Best regards,
 Juhani
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                      | Edited by - cedricfan on Jun 08 2016  01:45:26 AM
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                |  Alfa2
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                      |  Posted - Jun 07 2016 :  12:54:09 PM     
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                      | Juhani, thanks for the explanations.
 I have never interested in SMENAs before. I used one of them for some time in 80's. The lens was better than I expected (I mean the lens produced quite good image) but lens speed f/4, hmmm it could be more. And range of shutter speed was not sufficient. Nevertheless I have made many interesting photos with SMENA 8M.
 
 
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                | xya France
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                      |  Posted - Jun 08 2016 :  2:18:08 PM     
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                      | I don't think that they are fakes. I'm not an expert, in no way, but just look at the prices. the seller of the 4 different ones has 4 ordinary ones for nearly the same price. it makes no sense to produce coloured metal plates and have them screen printed for a gain of 1 or 2 dollars. "seller refurbished" is the only category ebay offers if an item is as new. there is "new" and then "used", there is no "as new" category. so quite some sellers choose this category to tell the buyer that the item is as new and works perfectly. 
 www.a7camera.com www.120folder.com www.instantphoto.eu
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                | Lenny 496 Posts
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                      |  Posted - Jun 08 2016 :  3:23:54 PM     
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                      | quote:Originally posted by xya
 
 I don't think that they are fakes, just look at the prices. the seller of the 4 different ones has 4 ordinary ones for nearly the same price. it makes no sense to produce coloured metal plates and have them screen printed for a gain of 1 or 2 dollars.
 
 
 
 To me that means the ordinary ones are expensive.
 I bought my ordinary 8M for $1, so $58 for 4 colored ones is a nice profit.
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                | xya France
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                      |  Posted - Jun 08 2016 :  4:05:26 PM     
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                      | quote:Originally posted by Lenny
 To me that means the ordinary ones are expensive.
 I bought my ordinary 8M for $1, so $58 for 4 colored ones is a nice profit.
 
 
 yes, that's possible, to have one for $1, but look at the "sold" section on ebay, there are hundreds of ordinary ones that sell even for $20...so why take the pain...
 
 www.a7camera.com www.120folder.com www.instantphoto.eu
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                | Lenny 496 Posts
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                      |  Posted - Jun 08 2016 :  4:35:16 PM     
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                      | quote:Originally posted by xya
 
 
 yes, that's possible, to have one for $1, but look at the "sold" section on ebay, there are hundreds of ordinary ones that sell even for $20...so why take the pain...
 
 www.a7camera.com www.120folder.com www.instantphoto.eu
 
 
 
 Often on ebay, what they show as sold was not sold, especially the BUY IT NOW items. You need to click the item twice to see the original listing, when it is mentioned there that it was sold then it was sold. If it's not mentioned there then the offer only expired. Also sometimes the seller might place one bid by himself to force collectors to bid otherwise the item might be sold to another collector :) and 2 weeks later the item is offered again.
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                      | Edited by - Lenny on Jun 08 2016  4:38:08 PM
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                |  Juhani Halmeenmaki
 cedricfan
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                      |  Posted - Jun 09 2016 :  02:15:54 AM       
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                      | And in the case of 8M the common fakes are easy to tell: just look at the letters & symbol... 
 Best regards,
 Juhani
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