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Matt Bulthouse
Matt Bulthouse
USA
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jed
France
391 Posts
My Collection
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 Posted - Sep 15 2016 : 2:45:17 PM
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Hi,
Quite interesting - I own two 1952 Kiev mount J11 : one is like yours, the other one has the tinted coating |
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Jacques M.
France
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Posted - Sep 15 2016 : 3:06:13 PM
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I own a 1951 LTM Jup 11, and it doesn't have the Zeiss number at the back.
But nothing is impossible. Does yours have it?
Jacques. |
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jed
France
391 Posts
My Collection
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Posted - Sep 15 2016 : 3:31:44 PM
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Hi Jacques,
Please tell us where is the Zeiss number ?
Best,
Jean |
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Jacques M.
France
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Posted - Sep 15 2016 : 4:17:00 PM
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It's not as simple, as you know!
One cannot know, by the tint of the front lens, if there is a Zeiss number at the back...
In fact, there was a sort of "lego" party at the end of WW2 with the different parts of Sonnars and Biogons: barrels, lenses and mounts. And I (personally) think that the 4/13,5 Sonnars parts were probably the first to be completely used. We find "official" Zeiss parts up to 1952 on Jup 12, for example.
But it's a complex question which cannot be explored in two sentences.
As I'm a player, I would say that if there is a Zeiss number, it would be on the left lens. But I must be wrong too!
Now, tell me, please, Jed!
Amitiés. Jacques. |
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Matt Bulthouse
Matt Bulthouse
USA
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Posted - Sep 16 2016 : 4:50:35 PM
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Matt Bulthouse
Matt Bulthouse
USA
5 Posts |
Posted - Sep 16 2016 : 4:53:19 PM
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quote:
Originally posted by jed
Hi,
Quite interesting - I own two 1952 Kiev mount J11 : one is like yours, the other one has the tinted coating
Very nice collection Jed!
I love Russian lenses. They just add a certain something to photography. |
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Jacques M.
France
2616 Posts |
Posted - Sep 17 2016 : 08:27:32 AM
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How we can find the Zeiss number, if there is one?
You try to unscrew the barrel by the front of the lens. At the rear end of the barrel, you (can) have a Zeiss number.
But don't force. I have three of these lenses, in LTM version. But only one can be unscrewed. The others were certainly sticked to keep good regulatings.
I take two or three picts and I post them. |
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Jacques M.
France
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Jacques M.
France
2616 Posts |
Posted - Sep 17 2016 : 08:52:57 AM
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Note that it's a LTM Sonnar (my 1951 Jup 11 has externally exactly the same features).
I suppose that bayonet mounts can be dismounted in the same way. But they can be sticked too...
Jacques. |
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Matt Bulthouse
Matt Bulthouse
USA
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Posted - Sep 17 2016 : 11:17:47 AM
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| I will check on this later. Thank you! |
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jed
France
391 Posts
My Collection
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Posted - Sep 18 2016 : 02:24:18 AM
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Hi all,
I tried what Jacques said :
Rear element both have a hand written number "409" and "22". |
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Jacques M.
France
2616 Posts |
Posted - Sep 18 2016 : 05:54:29 AM
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So, no official Zeiss number on the rear, Jean ? Only hand written inscriptions? The fact that they are the same is interesting: they were probably made by the same person... |
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Matt Bulthouse
Matt Bulthouse
USA
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Posted - Sep 20 2016 : 7:14:59 PM
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| Where is it that I look for these numbers? I looked after I took the lens block out...where is it? |
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Jacques M.
France
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Posted - Sep 21 2016 : 05:15:53 AM
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Hi Matt,
If you don't find such a number on the rear part of the lens, that means that this part was not made by Zeiss.
Jacques. |
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1952 Contax mount Jupiter 11 Zeiss glass!
