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Alexander K.
AlexanderK
Germany
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 Posted - Feb 11 2019 : 12:54:59 AM
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Hi Fred,
it is very nice find, but this lens doesn't belong to set. On this place must be a film development spool.
Regards, Alexander |
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treehorn
Germany
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jed
France
391 Posts
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Posted - Mar 24 2019 : 05:56:23 AM
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| Congratulations ! Very rare cameras. Please post s/n on the wiki. |
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Alexander K.
AlexanderK
Germany
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Posted - Mar 24 2019 : 3:06:19 PM
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Originally posted by jed
Congratulations ! Very rare cameras.
Jed,
why rare? What does this "T" mean?
Regards, Alexander |
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jed
France
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Posted - Mar 24 2019 : 3:21:55 PM
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Hello Alexander,
In the wiki only 3 cameras are listed. Now we have 5...
I own one 🙂
Vlad said a friend told him the camera was designed to take pictures from a plane. ´Topographical' camera : T.
Jean |
Edited by - jed on Mar 24 2019 3:29:41 PM |
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Vladislav Kern
Vlad
USA
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Alexander K.
AlexanderK
Germany
580 Posts |
Posted - Mar 24 2019 : 3:35:16 PM
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OK, thanks for explanation.
Regards, Alexander |
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Juhani Halmeenmaki
cedricfan
Finland
993 Posts
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Posted - Mar 24 2019 : 11:29:38 PM
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Did "T" have a different meaning on Zeiss, like multicoated?
I am sure I have seen it on some lens just can't remember which...
Best regards,
Juhani |
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treehorn
Germany
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Posted - Mar 25 2019 : 03:05:35 AM
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The Soviet lenses in the 1950ies do have a red "П" to indicate a single coating.
"T" on Zeiss lenses indicates a single coating, invented by Alexander Smakula (born in the Ukraine) for Zeiss in 1935. They used it until 1945 mostly for military optics. In 1940 the first Biogon and Sonnar Optics for the Contax Rangefinder with a "T"-coating were shown. By 1950 all Zeiss lenses were coated and marked with the red "T". Later they introduced the "T*" multi-coating.
"T" stands for "transparency optics", in Russian "просветление оптики" (pronounced "prosvetlenie optiki" and meaning a "better shining-through of optics".
More information: https://lenspire.zeiss.com/photo/app/uploads/2018/12/en_About-the-reduction-of-reflections-of-camera-lenses.pdf |
Edited by - treehorn on Mar 25 2019 03:59:48 AM |
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Alexander K.
AlexanderK
Germany
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Posted - Mar 25 2019 : 4:34:55 PM
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Thank you, treehorn.
This explanation seems more plausible to me than “tropical” or “topographic”. Otherwise serial number of the camera has 'T' as well and on the lens with russian inscription I would expect 'П' (просветленный), but not 'T'.
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levonsa
levonsa
Russia
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SteveA
United Kingdom
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Posted - Mar 26 2019 : 04:02:16 AM
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| Looks like a Jena Contax? Serial number appears like a late model, bears all the traits of one looking at images in Minoru Sasakis 'Contax to Kiev'. Black painted surround is interesting, any sign of chrome plating on the back of the surround? Looks like and early 1950's lens serial number though... |
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treehorn
Germany
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Posted - Mar 26 2019 : 05:00:34 AM
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quote:
Originally posted by AlexanderK
Thank you, treehorn.
This explanation seems more plausible to me than “tropical” or “topographic”. Otherwise serial number of the camera has 'T' as well and on the lens with russian inscription I would expect 'П' (просветленный), but not 'T'.
Sorry Alexander, that was a misunderstanding. To make it clear: the "T" on the Kiev (lens and body) has nothing in common with the "T" on the Zeiss lenses. The equivalent to the Zeiss "T" is the "П" you've mentioned. |
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treehorn
Germany
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Posted - Mar 26 2019 : 08:08:41 AM
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Originally posted by levonsa
Hello!
I came across an interesting camera in my opinion ....
A black Jena-Contax - all alarm bells are ringing. My first thought was that it has to be a fake, especially considering the good shape of the camera. But at a closer look many things seems to fit:
- black cover of self-timer
- groove in focus wheel
- frame counter looks more Zeiss than Arsenal style
- accessory shoe has Jena style
According to Bernd K. Otto ("Von der Carl Zeiss Jena-Contax zur Kiev", PhotoDeal 34, 2001) there have been some samples of the Jena Contax in creme and black. They were presented at the 1950 fair in Leipzig with serial numbers 27801-28100. That would fit too.
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Edited by - treehorn on Mar 26 2019 08:12:11 AM |
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Jacques M.
France
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Posted - Mar 26 2019 : 10:28:18 AM
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A beautiful and rare version of the Jena Contax!
The beige one is much more popular (and numerous) with probably aroud 20 samples made.
I have 10 Jena Contaxes "half black" in my data, like this one, and one or two all black, including the Sonnar...
To go back to this s/n 28081 (thanks, Alexey!), another interesting thing is the Sonnar already engraved 50mm. An late series for this f2 Jena Sonnar, delivered in january 1951 and which should always be engraved in cm by the Thiele! The date is interesting: it could give a good idea for the mounting of this camera.
Amitiés. Jacques. |
Edited by - Jacques M. on Mar 26 2019 10:29:29 AM |
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levonsa
levonsa
Russia
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Jacques M.
France
2521 Posts |
Posted - Mar 26 2019 : 4:18:49 PM
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Of course, Alexey. Thanks!
As new, like many other Jena Contaxes... |
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Ulrich W.
uwittehh
Germany
765 Posts
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Posted - Mar 26 2019 : 5:24:40 PM
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levonsa,
this is a really rare Jena Contax! Congratulations to that find.
Ulrich
http://fotos.cconin.de |
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Ulrich W.
uwittehh
Germany
765 Posts
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Posted - Mar 26 2019 : 5:25:56 PM
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Jacques,
I own 3 Jena Contax now, and two of them looked as they were used over the years.
Ulrich
http://fotos.cconin.de |
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Ulrich W.
uwittehh
Germany
765 Posts
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Posted - Mar 26 2019 : 5:53:11 PM
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New in my collection, the Jena Contax from 1950 (serial number 27858). Together with it's sister a 1951 KIEV II. The Contax comes with a rare Carl Zeiss Jena marked Torpedo finder and a Sonnar 4/135 from July 1949.
Ulrich
http://fotos.cconin.de |
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levonsa
levonsa
Russia
248 Posts |
Posted - Mar 26 2019 : 6:31:06 PM
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| Ulrich thank you! |
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Fred_L
France
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treehorn
Germany
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Alexander K.
AlexanderK
Germany
580 Posts |
Posted - May 18 2019 : 01:28:57 AM
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This model was made for medical purposes. There were two differen models, both came without lens.
Regards, Alexander |
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jed
France
391 Posts
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luigi gesi
schyter
Italy
81 Posts
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luigi gesi
schyter
Italy
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Juhani Halmeenmaki
cedricfan
Finland
993 Posts
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Posted - Jun 23 2019 : 02:15:22 AM
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Congrats, APK is a very fine camera!
Best regards,
Juhani |
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Jacques M.
France
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Jacques M.
France
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Jacques M.
France
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marcolin
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xya
France
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Jacques M.
France
2521 Posts |
Posted - Nov 02 2019 : 10:13:42 AM
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Fine!
And thanks for your detailed explanations on your site.
Hope you will post photos made with that camera.
Amitiés. Jacques. |
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Vladislav Kern
Vlad
USA
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Posted - Nov 02 2019 : 10:53:39 AM
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Hi Jacques, can you please open a thread regarding your Kiev that had no-name plate, can you please post a photo of a the noname plate that you have left over, especially I am interested in the bottom portion of it that has a cut out for the tripod socket. Thank you!
Xya, Marcolin, nice Zorki 3M and F21!! Congratulations!
Best regards,
Vlad. |
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xya
France
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Fred_L
France
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Alexander K.
AlexanderK
Germany
580 Posts |
Posted - Nov 03 2019 : 12:07:04 PM
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Hi Fred,
could you please post a photo from bottom? Thank you.
Regards, Alexander |
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Fred_L
France
220 Posts |
Posted - Nov 09 2019 : 12:12:51 PM
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Hi Alexander
I cannot take picture at the moment,
On bottom, there is only the tripod nut.
There is not button as we can see on wiki
I'll take a pic later
Best regards
Fred |
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luigi gesi
schyter
Italy
81 Posts
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Ulrich W.
uwittehh
Germany
765 Posts
My Collection
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Posted - Nov 15 2019 : 2:11:02 PM
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Two new cameras:
A very early Zorki C (5500571) with the short release button:
And a Zorki 6 with nice latin name:
Ulrich
http://fotos.cconin.de |
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Ulrich W.
uwittehh
Germany
765 Posts
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Posted - Dec 01 2019 : 3:50:51 PM
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Look at this, a FED 1e Berdsk like new. The chrome looks really bright.
Ulrich
http://fotos.cconin.de |
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Jacques M.
France
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Posted - Dec 16 2019 : 09:25:20 AM
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Shining new, Ulrich! But you have a special secret to prepare your cameras for photo!
There is a "new" Fed 1b here, s/n 11823. Not far from your 11959, Jed! It will be perfect between my 10020 (window with a hollow on the upper part) and my 12840 (no hole on back; brown vulcanite).
A photo:
http://www.ussrphoto.com/UserContent2/16122019_IMG_2442.JPG
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Jacques M.
France
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Juhani Halmeenmaki
cedricfan
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Vladislav Kern
Vlad
USA
4212 Posts
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Posted - Dec 18 2019 : 2:43:43 PM
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Hi Juhani! Glad you got the package safe and sound! , it is very funny that you got your camera back considering the fact that I bought it from you originally! LOL! I have gotten a duplicate since then so this one went back into trading pile. I believe the same thing happened with me and Ulrich at some point in the past where I got my own camera back. Very funny! The Soviet Collector's cycle!
Enjoy and congratulations!
Best regards,
Vlad. |
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Ulrich W.
uwittehh
Germany
765 Posts
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Posted - Dec 18 2019 : 2:54:33 PM
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Jacques, nice early FED. Congratulations! There is no secret about preparing them for the photos, just don't use flash or light from the front :-)
Ulrich
http://fotos.cconin.de |
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Ulrich W.
uwittehh
Germany
765 Posts
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Posted - Dec 18 2019 : 2:56:22 PM
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Vlad, yes, that happened to me too. Recently I bought a KIIV IIIa on ebay and wondered when I looked at my camera list that I've sold it in 2006. Now I got it back for less money :D
Ulrich
http://fotos.cconin.de |
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Ulrich W.
uwittehh
Germany
765 Posts
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Posted - Dec 18 2019 : 2:57:42 PM
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Juhani, nice Leica. I think you feel that an original Leica is smoother than the FEDs and Zorkis :-)
Ulrich
http://fotos.cconin.de |
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Ulrich W.
uwittehh
Germany
765 Posts
My Collection
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Posted - Dec 18 2019 : 3:05:01 PM
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Jacques and all others, another shiny camera :)
Some months ago a very early Contax II arrived here, serial Z 50474. As I know the numbering starts with Z 50000, so it seems to be the 474th Contax II! It comes together with a Jena Contax box, original Jena Contax manual and early postwar Sonnar 4/135. A strange combination but I am happy about the box and the manual, only a few manuals are known to exist.
It seems that the camera was not much used:
Ulrich
http://fotos.cconin.de |
Edited by - uwittehh on Dec 18 2019 3:07:25 PM |
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