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Jacques M.

The non Leica fakes





Hello,
The "Leica fakes" thread gave me the idea of a "non Leica fakes" one.
By "non Leica fakes", I mean cameras with the LTM/M39 system, made from Fed/Zorki bodies. The engraving on the cover can be a Canon, Shanghai, SAGEM, etc.

Here is my Fed-Nicca:
- Fed shutter box,
- Nicca cover and RF.

Feel free to post your discoveries!

Amitiés. Jacques.
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Jacques,
I did not know that these cameras were also faked. Unfortunately I don't have any.
But maybe it could be a new collection area ;-)

Ulrich

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Jacques M.
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It's never too late, Ulrich!😉

Here, a Reid I fake made from a Zorki I and an Industar 22 (not mine, for sale on ebay at a stratospheric price!).

Amitiés. Jacques.
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TWINS

Hi !
FED #12807 + #12808




Moscow-4 #5500611 + #5500612


FED #7428 + #7429 + #7430



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Jacques M.
Jacques M.

Just to help a bit...



Amitiés. Jacques.
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I could not help buying the s/n 465617...Note that the 618 has a black logo, not the 617.
Amitiés. Jacques.
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http://www.ussrphoto.com/UserContent/962016_jpg 33.jpg

I am really surpised, because I own the 261 and the 262 !!!! Of course I can make pics of them.
As Jacques said, I am also very interested in the 263, because I own also the 264!!!
Fred
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New curtains source for zorki

i recently bought some etone shutter curtain to replace the old ones in my zorki3.
I noticed because the etone curtains are only 0.15mm at speed 1/1000 the curtain dosent create a gap, i had to make the drum thicker by adding extra curtain material.
now the gap for 1/1000 at the begin of the travel is about ~1,2mm and at the end ~3,4mm.

So im looking for a better source for zorki curtains since the last post discussing is already over a decade old.
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uwittehh
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I buy my shutter clothes at nobbysparrow on ebay, he has clothes that are 0.2mm. And instead of making the drum thicker you can change the position of the curtain on the big drum. Only 1mm makes a big difference.

Ulrich
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thanks, moving the curtain 1mm unfortunately dosen't work on 0,15mm curtains because the shutter wouldn't fully close while cocking the shutter.
didn't knew 0.05mm in thickness would make such a huge difference at 1/1000 because the etone curtains seems to work ok for 1/500.

i will look into the curtains from nobbysparrow for my next CLA
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I'm familiar with the problem of the curtain not closing properly when cocking. I've always been able to solve the problem by adjusting its position on the large drum.
I haven't had any problems with nobbysparrow's curtains so far. I also sell refurbished cameras and have only received positive feedback until now.
Maybe the slight difference in thickness does make a difference.

Good luck :-)

Ulrich

http://fotos.cconin.de
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uwittehh

The weird hammer-and-sickle FED

Hello,

I recently showed a photo of the Hammer-and-Sickle FED No. 3214. I was wondering why the shutter curtains were faulty – after all, I’ve had it for 15 years.
So I took it apart to repair it.



When I took the cover off, what on earth was that? A Zorki cover! The ‘Zorki’ lettering had been stamped out and sanded down at the top.



If you look closely at the top, you can still make out a sort of shadow of the ‘Zorki’ lettering.



It is also strange that some parts were numbered. The shutter box and the housing have a ‘74’ scratched into them, and on the top, the ‘74’ has even been stamped in.







The date scratched into the side of the case is also still visible, but in an unusual format: 7 - 8 - 5. Could this perhaps be 7 August 1955?



Ulrich

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And this is the result after reassembling it all :-)


Ulrich

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Jacques M.
Jacques M.
Interesting!It looks (a bit!) like the very early Kievs with Contax still stamped on the reverse of the front plate!
For you, the mechanism belongs to a Fed or a Zorki?

Amitiés. Jacques.
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Jacques,
that was my first thought, too (Contax - Kiev) :-)
The camera is definitely a FED; only the top cover was taken from a Zorki.
I'm wondering what the “7 - 8 - 5” means. If it's 1955, then it would be a FED 1f or 1g; or maybe 1945.

Ulrich

http://fotos.cconin.de
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cheap kiev4m/am

looking for a cheap spare parts kiev4a/am for a TTL metering project, i already have a spare shutter modified with a light sensor.
The body i originally wanted to use is no good tho.
I'm looking for spare Kiev4am body to drop the shutter in, a 4m would also be fine but the whole point is is kind of the get rid of the original selenium meter.
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just arrived in my collection

note :
a "no-name" factory design Lubitel (black front paint whith original rivets) may be to be silk screen rebadged in export or just for International exibition ? (never used)
and an original Kristall whithout usual hammered grey enamel.Seem to be factory made like this : soft matt aluminium (whithout any scratches or cracks)...I can confirm never painted.
serial number : 61018045

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Fred_L
Fred_L
I think this one has seen less than ten rolls!!!! No sign of use. The instruction booklet is in english, but including some pepers with comments in French. Thank you Vlad!
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Zenit LC-A for the Italian market 1987.
"Cosina Italia S.p.a." warranty (Avegno - Genova) 😀

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Only dead fish follow the stream ...
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Jacques M.
Jacques M.
Hi all

Just arrived this week here at home
Complete with original bag with the 4 filters, release cable and instruction booklet in English.
Serial number of the lens 010031.
All functions tested and seem to be OK .
Next is to put a film inside and try to take pics with 3.7kg in hands..

I just didn't know that camera existed! Hope you will take some photos with it!
Amitiés à toi. Jacques.
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uwittehh

The Leica fakes

Hello,
I quite like fake Leicas, for some reason :-) But not the ones with swastikas or strange engravings, nor the modified Zorki C.
But some of the ones that pass themselves off as Leicas do look rather pretty and imaginative.

Here are a few photos of my ‘Leicas’:

First, one of the loveliest ones I received just the other day. The wooden panel is beautifully crafted, and the brass has a lovely shine. It was made from a late FED 1F or 1G
Tip: Place the brass parts in an ultrasonic cleaner and add a teaspoon of citric acid powder.





This one was converted from a Zorki 1D. The Leica engraving is too big.





The next one is from a Zorki 1C. I like the black paint.





This one was made from an early FED S. The Leica engraving looks very good.





And the last one was made from an early FED 1a, maybe in the numeres around 7000. It has no serial number! :-)





Feel free to add your own Leica fakes to this thread :-)

Ulrich

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Jacques M.
Jacques M.


A fake Leica still based on a 1d/1e, but with a genuine Elmar s/n 500716.


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Jacques M.
Jacques M.
Probably the finest engravings of my Leica fakes. Still with a "converted" Fed 2/50mm lens in beautiful condition.
Amitiés. Jacques.

PS: Vlad: some problems to put in order text and photos inside a post. Hence too my 6 posts for 6 cameras. But Ulrich has no problem, so it's me!


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Jacques,
thanks for showing your beautiful "Leicas" :-)
The last one looks really nice, specially the engravings on the lens front ring.
For the first one I have no idea what the source for this could have been. I looked in "Leica Copies by HPR" but have not found a camera with such a rewind lever.

Ulrich

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I brought some pictures of the Soviet Union.



I uploaded it to my Google Drive because of its large capacity. I only scanned six rolls because of the funding limit, but I think it is the most interesting six rolls.

Here is the rink But there is a human face, I will get off if someone makes a claim.
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1VH853QKXTLYEcWBhjvxTmSxt1Wpexal-/view?usp=drivesdk
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ldy0618
quote:Originally posted by cedricfan

Zarya? 85mm tele?
so I try to find a first SLR series
and I find it,it's zenit-3
zenit-3 have 2 screw at background, no sign,big viewfinder, zenit M39 and it's developed 1960

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cedricfan
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Wow, we are true Sherlock Holmes here working as a team!

Best regards,
Juhani
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craqdi
With total probability the photo was taken in Uzvaras.📸
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uwittehh

Weird Contax III

Although I know that this is about Soviet cameras... the Contax III is the predecessor of the KIEV III, but this Contax III is very special.
The light meter cover has holes, the light meter setting looks like a Contax IIIa or a Kiev 4, but also somehow different.
I've never seen a camera like this before, what might it be? A conversion in the 50s, because, yes, why? Or a prototype? It is from 1938, as you can see from the G serial number.
Have a look at the pictures, I will take it apart soon to see more details:











Ulrich

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Jacques,

nice to see that it has arrived safe and sound. It's really interesting that the inside of your cover is blackened and a hole has been glued shut. The cameras were apparently all customized.

Ulrich

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Jacques M.
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Yes, Ulrich. The flash socket is exactly in the same position as on your own cameras. Really, all that was made by the same worshop quoted in Zeiss Historica article.
I will check this very original flash contact as soon as I can, with your perfect explanations on you site!Smile

Amitiés. Jacques.
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Jusr want to add this information about the installed lightmeter. See on page 20:
https://mikeeckman.com/2019/11/zeiss-historica-spring-2005/

Ulrich

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Yuriy Lozinsky

Rare lens Industar-61 with distance scale in FEET

Hello everyone!
The export version of the Industar-61 lens with a distance scale in feet is very rare.
I know of only a few examples:
I-61 #6591212 (1965)
I-61 #8519490 (1973)
I-61 #8697161 (1974)
I-61 #8715502 (1975)
I-61 #8864961 (1965)
Does anyone have this lens or camera with documentation?
I'd like to know which countries they were exported to?



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Vlad

GOMZ FN-201

Someone posted this photo on Facebook, I've never seen anything like this, any ideas what is the purpose of this? Seems like a technical camera but for what?
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fedka
Having a place to develop is easy.
I am not a submariner, don't know what you would use the pictures for. Perhaps for training, like that aerial machine gun camera.
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xalmaz
quote:Originally posted by Vlad

Oh! first Soviet submarine was made in 1936


First Soviet submarine was made in 1929.

http://xalmaz.infinityfreeapp.com
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Jacques M.
Jacques M.
Interesting!
On the postwar British and French submarines, the cameras were adapted from the production (Reid and Sigrist I; different Foca models). I wonder why a special camera on Soviet ones, whereas it could certainly have been easy to adapt some Feds...Amitiés. Jacques.
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F21 camera photos taken


fuji positive film rvp100,my son
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Vlad
Vlad
Thanks for the reply Liukai. I don't really understand what you mean though. Did you use a camera to take a photograph through the viewfinder of another camera, and the dark bits at the top and bottom are part of the 2nd camera?

it's just a slide viewer that was taken photo of.
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Detlev
The F 21 takes 18 x 24 images. You can see one in the middle.

Regards, Detlev
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Detlev


here is the image
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Vlad

Wiki Article: Memories of my friend Isaak Maizenberg by Greg Prior

This is a preface to a preface. On May 31, 2026, I met Greg Prior at a camera show in Detroit, Michigan. We had a very pleasant conversation and soon discovered that we shared an interest in Isaak Maizenberg. Greg had known Isaak personally, while I knew of him through his reputation and through many people in the camera collecting community who had known or worked with him.

Isaak was a prominent figure in the Soviet photographic world. He authored numerous articles for Soviet photography magazines, books on camera repair and was a renowned camera repairman in both the Soviet Union and the United States. He was also one of the pioneers of Soviet camera collecting and restoration, helping to shape the hobby and preserve its history for future generations.

After the show, Greg and I continued communicating and agreed that it would be a great idea to write an article about Isaak. The article below was written by Greg and is accompanied by an article from Shutterbug magazine. Together, they serve as a tribute to Isaak's life, his contributions to photography, and the lasting impression he made on those who knew him. I believe this site would be a perfect place to host this article. Thank you @Greg Prior!

https://ussrphoto.com/modern/Wiki/default.asp?WikiCatID=50&ParentID=49&ContentID=1738&Item=Memories+of+my+friend+Isaak+Maizenberg++
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Vlad

Black framed logo Smena Symbol

Hi all,
I added this supposedly rare Smena Symbol to my collection, does anyone have this one to compare serial #? Mine is 79250290


Best regards,
Vlad
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Vlad
Vlad
thanks Juhani, it is a different type of nameplate though, Aidas had this one in this list but the year was different so i'm curious now
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Zenit 16 shutter repair

Hey all,

Does anyone know much about repairing the Zenit 16 shutter? Does it need specialist repair or could any film camera repair store do it?

The shutter is only firing at 1/1000 no matter what shutter speed i set it too.
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Vlad
Vlad
hmm.. it's a pretty odd vertical shutter.. I think Oleg Khalyavin in Slovakia may be able to fix it but I am not sure where you can find someone in Australia, you can ask around..
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Jacques M.

A coupled Industar 7 ?

Hello,

I fell on this very curious GOMZ Industar 7 some days ago. It is here now.









I don't know when, nor by whom it was made. But that does not look like a "home made" work. I am astonished too by the very early serial number... If anybody has an idea...

Thanks! Jacques.

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Jacques, I'd like to know how much of the viewfinder image you can see when it's on the Fed, and whether you can see anything at all if there's a lens hood on the lens?
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Jacques M.
Jacques M.

Hi Sean,
The lens takes 1/3 - 1/4 in the viewfinder. No idea with a sunshade.
It is not visible when using the 100mm Fed finder.

Amitiés. Jacques.
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Jacques M.
Jacques M.
Another GOMZ Industar 7 M39, much later than mine by the serial number (110414 vs 1129), with a different system of coupling (shortened distance scale)...Photos by "la Gazette Drouot".

Amitiés. Jacques.


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Looking for a Zenit 18

Hey,

Does anyone happen to be selling a working Zenit 18?

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Valkir1987
Valkir1987
I found this interesting repair instruction, with the original schematic. It does not show an optocoupler circuit like the Praktica EE2/EE2. But it uses and IC for the memory instead.

When this camera was produced (1980-1987) the Praktica B series was already in production.

https://fotoussr.ru/articles/zenit-18-repair/
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Mikhailovich
Mikhailovich
What amount of money are we talking about, if I am ready to sell this camera in full factory equipment and in excellent condition.(ME-1 lens, passport, box, belt).
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Jacques M.

Proxi (repro?) device for Fed 1.

Hello,

I have received lately a proxi device for Fed 1.



It was certainly prewar made, when the "macro" 3,5/50mm Fed did not yet exist, so before 1938.
An interesting device, with an additional +2 lens which fits only the 3,5/50mm lens, and a very well made correcting finder with two optical parts. All that is connected to the rangefinder, of course. As to make correct photos with all that...🤔
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Vlad
Vlad
Hi Jacques,

this is a logo of Izyum Factory in Soviet Ukraine which was established in 1956 so it seems to be a post-war product.

Thank you and I'm glad you like the forum updates, more are coming.

Best regards,
Vlad
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Jacques M.
Jacques M.

Many thanks, Vlad!

OK. If I understand correctly, I will have to put that accessory on a late 1g rather on a 1b...🤔
That puts another question. Why that device made after 1956? It can be put only on Fed 1/Zorki 1 cameras (both discontinued in 1955/56) and only on a collapsible 3,5/50mm...
I am perplax...

Amitiés. Jacques.
PS: the Princelle quotes the +1 version only (p 273).
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uwittehh

Repair instructions on my site

Hello,

I think this might be of interest to you all too, so I have put all my repair instructions, which were scattered all over my website, together on one page.
All pages are still in German, but I will translate them into English in the future.

If you are interested you can have a look: http://ritzelkiste.de/kameras/repair/index.htm

Have fun
Ulrich

http://fotos.cconin.de
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uwittehh
uwittehh
Right, I’ve successfully taken the Droug apart, repaired it and put it back together again :-)
Here’s a brief guide (it could be much longer), but it was already enough work as it was...

http://ritzelkiste.de/kameras/drougrepair/indexe.htm

Enjoy watching.

Ulrich
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Jacques M.
Jacques M.

Hats off once more, Ulrich! Your guide gives an idea of the complexity of this camera.
I did not think it was so different from the "ordinary" Zorkis... and so well made.

I suppose you have put the extra pin in a safe, to get it out, just in case?😉

Amitiés. Jacques.
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uwittehh
uwittehh
Jacques,

thank you very much. I was also really surprised by the camera’s modular design and high-quality build. I suppose that’s why so few were ever made. It wasn’t possible to manufacture it at a profit under the Soviet system.
Of course, I kept the bolt; maybe I'll take the other Droug apart again just enough to see if it belongs there or not :-)

Ulrich
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