Fed Berdsk - Known Examples

I promised to place photo of my FED. It's number is 210 193. Hmmm, strange camera.

Here they are.

Exceptional!
The NKAP vulcanite, and the prewar release button!
One of the very first 1f...

Congrats, Alfa! Jacques.

Thank you so much Alfa,

what a beauty. How many years do you have it?

Sad, it's not working, right?

Thank you Jacques, thank you Lenny.

I have the FED about 15 years. Unfortunately it is not working now but it was working when I bought it. I think this is only problem with glue which is used for a shutter ribbon to glue it to a roller. Good that the FED is complete and I will fix it during winter when my repairman has less orders than during summer.

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Originally posted by Alfa2


Thank you Jacques, thank you Lenny.

I have the FED about 15 years. Unfortunately it is not working now but it was working when I bought it. I think this is only problem with glue which is used for a shutter ribbon to glue it to a roller. Good that the FED is complete and I will fix it during winter when my repairman has less orders than during summer.

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I had that problem too on a Zorki-C, the glue wasn't strong enough on the drum. But good you have someone to fix it.

Great you have it for so many years, it's kind of a reference to be original. And #210235 has this stretched stripes vulcanite too, so it match with it.

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Originally posted by Lenny
And #210235 has this stretched stripes vulcanite too, so it match with it.

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That's great. I had the same doubts.
What about the lens S/N ? It seems to be OK, FED 210 193 and the lens number 217 - little bit greater.
Seems they started lenses numbering from the beginning with FED 210 000.
What do you think ?

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Originally posted by Alfa2


What about the lens S/N ? It seems to be OK, FED 210 193 and the lens number 217 - little bit greater.
Seems they started lenses numbering from the beginning with FED 210 000.
What do you think ?

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I don't know what Fed did with the lens serial numbers, especially when they are not stamped at the lock. I guess 217 is a kind of batch number only and it didn't get a real serial number. But since they just started with #210000 you could be right. Maybe we will know more about lens serials one day.

I think too it's a batch number (or a control number) rather a real serial number, by the s/n of lenses I know on other Fed 1f.

Jacques.

There is also a lens number on the lever but the lens needs to be screwd out off the helicoid to see this number.

It would be really interesting to resolve the secret of Fed lens numbers, but thousands of numbers would be needed.
This could be a challenge for ussrphoto.com with its thousand members.

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Originally posted by Lenny

There is also a lens number on the lever but the lens needs to be screwd out off the helicoid to see this number.

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I have checked the number. It is also 217. This confirms somehow it is not serial as you wrote it isn't. So this is lens without S/N.

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Originally posted by Lenny
This could be a challenge for ussrphoto.com with its thousand members.

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Great, we will have subject to talk about for next 10 years.

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Originally posted by Alfa2

Great, we will have subject to talk about for next 10 years.

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That's for sure ... if you search every weekend in your boxes for some forgotten gems. I wonder about the other cameras you have. Poland is still a good place to get some great cameras.

FED #210033 ____ leans #209
FED #210073 ____ leans #3
FED #210193 ____ leans #211
FED #210266 ____ leans #6
FED #210437 ____ leans #26A

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Originally posted by Lenny
That's for sure ... if you search every weekend in your boxes for some forgotten gems. I wonder about the other cameras you have. Poland is still a good place to get some great cameras.

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Polish market was good place to get some great cameras 15 years ago and earlier. Now you can buy here boring things like AF digital equipment or manual not branded (i mean branded by Makinon or Albinar) staff.

And I'd like to have such boxes with many forgotten gems but unfortunalely I don't have them.

By this what levonsa has written the lens number defintely has nothing to do with camera S/N.

I thought you only bikers in Poland are not allowed. There is no place for politics, there are the facts! FED #210033 + lens №209 - it's attestat! Or a certificate of your too, is of no importance?

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Originally posted by levonsa

FED #210033 + lens №209 - it's attestat! Or a certificate of your too, is of no importance?

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Alexey, where is #209 stamped? At the lock or away from the lock?
I think if you have to write a passport, you take the number which you can see. But there might be hundred lenses with #209. Can't be a real serial number.

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Originally posted by Alfa2

Polish market was good place to get some great cameras 15 years ago and earlier.

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There is this Polish guy in Scottland, 'vintagefotos' on ebay, and he has many other ebay accounts. He often buys in Poland and then sells it for much more in UK. Poland is definitely a place where many Zorkis were sold in the 1950s.

Yes Lenny, but Zorkis which were sold in Poland in 50's are absolutely regular ones and there are not so many of them. Big amount of really interesting cameras was imported to Poland in 90's. On our market there is a lot of e.g. Zorki 4 which were officially imported.

I think I know the guy but I have to ask him about his nick on ebay.

Strange, but I have always believed that if the passport number of the lens is written such that it lenses all the same room! And not fiction forum participants!
Lenny, you are doing a lot for the order on the site. It's great! But I also like the position of the wise Jacques! You should never jump to conclusions faster, especially when it comes to the Soviet production. We must weigh everything, consult with all together and make a decision!

http://www.ussrphoto.com/UserContent/1052016_2.jpg

Alexey, thanks for the close up photo of the passport.
But you must admit that the first Industar-10 #209 made from Fed should be from the year 1934, a 1-turn lens. Then at some point in time, when Fed changed the serial system, there should be many other Industar-10 also with #209. Helpful would be a close up photo from the back of the lens with the whole M39 ring shown, and maybe even the number on the lever, but the lens needs to be screwed out off the helicoid. I hope we will know more about this I-10 serial system one day.
Thanks