Fed Berdsk - Known Examples

Awesome, thank you Yuri!

The US Defense Technical Information Center states:
Voinskaya chast' [military unit] — is an organizationally self-sufficient tactical and administrative entity, in all services of the Armed Forces, maintained in accordance with an established shtat [Table of Organization and Equipment]. Voinskaya chast' applies to all regiments, ships of 1st, 2nd, 3rd rank, separate battalions (artillery battalions and air squadrons) not part of a regiment, and even separate companies not part of a battalion and regiment. The term "voinskaya chast'" is used when the actual name of a unit, which consists of its given number, shtat designation (if one is given), and names of its state awards (if the unit has been awarded state decorations), is implied.
Voyskovaya chast' [military unit] — is a conditional, numerical designation of military units (ships), formations and establishments of the Soviet Army, Navy, USSR MVD forces, and border guards of the USSR Committee of State Security.
It is its official designation and has legal force attached to the registering of official documentation. The term "voyskovaya chast'" is used in mutual relations of units and establishments between themselves, with civil departments, organizations, enterprises and private citizens, and even for addressing and sending of all sorts of correspondence and military goods. Units and establishments of the Soviet Army and Navy stationed in the territory of the USSR have a conditional designation "voyskovaya chast'", and those stationed out- side the USSR, "voyskovaya chast'—polevaya pochta [field post office]".

So this would mean that voinskaya chast can be any sort of military unit. I wonder if it would be possible to link the number to a certain unit.

Regards,
Christian

In theory it would be possible to find out the V/Ch location by number. Locations and numbers were classified in the Soviet times, but with so much time passed, this info should be open. 'Should be' is my opinion.
This organization most likely has your answer, and they do have an English web site

http://eng.mil.ru/en/archival_service/central.htm

We know the passport of #180024, dated 31/July/1941, long time after the war started on 22/June/1941. The battle of Kiev was from 23/August/1941 till 26/September/1941. It's amazing that they were still producing cameras at the end of July. To write a passport and sign it just takes a minute. It doesn't make sense to write a passport in advance because once you want to package the camera you need to search for the passport. I think it's safe to assume that #180024 was packaged on 31/July/1941, a Thursday.

It is mentioned that A.Braslavskiy has another passport of #175116 from summer 1941. It would be interesting to know the real date because we could calculate how long it took to produce nearly 5000 cameras, and we could calculate how many days it would take to produce the rest of the known Fed-1e. Is #183892 the highest known serial for a Fed-1e?

After the war the last samples of Fed-1e might be assembled and the Red Flag too. Photohistory.ru mentioned that 1316 cameras were produced in 1948. Since the passport of #201280 is from 19/August/1946, those 1316 cameras can't be all Red Flags. The first Fed-1f might have been produced in 1948.

FED #210033 was made 10 july 1948. Coll. D.Bessonov

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Originally posted by levonsa

FED #210033 was made 10 july 1948. Coll. D.Bessonov

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That's interesting.
So Fed produced Fed-Zorkis with 1/1000 speed together with KMZ in Krasnogorsk
and at the same time produced Fed-1f with 1/500 speed in Kharkov.

Thanks, Alexey.
Could you give too the address of the passport?
I suppose that this very early Fed 1f has a special vulcanite?

Amitiйs. Jacques.

I will ask permission from the owner to publish his picture.

Thank you very much Alexey,

FED made some ugly cases at that time.
Very sad that the vulcanite got painted.
I can't read the address, but it seems to be the new location.

Thanks a lot, Alexey!
A beautiful 1f, probably one of the first. I wonder if the official numbers don't begin with 210000, even if we find some 1f between 201800 and 210000, perhaps to fool the Plan!

This one has that ultra rare vulcanite. Some of the others have a Red Flag's one, with stretched stripes... My s/n 210921 is already completely regular.

Could somebody translate the location of the factory, so that we can make comparisons with the pre war ones?

Thanks again. Amitiйs. Jacques.

Alexey, very interesting example, thanks for posting! Jacques, the address on this passport on the bottom now is simply - City of Kharkov, FED, Marketing Department.

Thanks, Vlad. So, we don't know more about that question of location.
The passport of this very camera is coherent with the JLP which mentions that "the first 20 new Kharkov Feds were made in june 1948".
But the series begun with the s/n 210000...

Amitiйs. Jacques.