Fed Berdsk - Known Examples

Here are a few more serial #s and dates for the 1e, courtesy of Elnur:

163623 March 22 1941
164716 March 18 1941
175116 June 21 1941
177611 July 3 1941
178319 July 12 1941
180024 July 31 1941
181100 July 30 1941

Cheers,
Vlad

and one more 177572 from 1st of July 41

Thanks Elnur,

on the passport I read #177512. Is the camera #177572 ?

Oh, sorry. You r right Lenny. Made mistake.

Hello guys,
here are my Berdsk-cameras:

- 176426
- 182602

... unfortunately without any papers.

Regards, Alexander

Good day everyone!
Yesterday i was offered to buy (i didn't) camera n.183428.
I'd like to share a photo (s\n is already in the wiki):


Unfortunately, i got only one picture.

Thanks Aleksandrov,

it's really amazing that so many Fed-1e look so good,
as if they were never used,
as if they were not bought from someone who wants to use it,
as if they were gifts maybe for outstanding military performance.

I put it in the wiki under FED-1e too, to be complete.

Why it has 1/1000 ?
Was it FED S ?

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Originally posted by Alfa2


Why it has 1/1000 ?
Was it FED S ?

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#183321 is listed with 1/1000 too, so this makes sense too.

that's a FED-S, I have a 1e FED-S also with 1/1000 but regular 3.5 lens. Will look at serial # later if you guys are interested. it's in 17XXXXX range..

Sure Vlad, and S/N of the lens pls.

My serials:

- 176328 Lens FED 1:2/50 27183
- 176810 Lens I-10 137814
- 182433 Lens I-10 105593

Ulrich





http://fotos.cconin.de

Giving the right url and translation of Zoom page:


http://www.zenitcamera.com/archive/misc/gko-2445.html

Top secret
Ruling
State Defense Committee
Number 2445 cc
Moscow Kremlin

October 23, 1942


On the selection of opto-mechanical production from the plant number 296 Narkomaviaproma and transfer it to the system Narkomvooruzheniya

State Defense Committee decided:

1. Cancel Item 4 Resolution GFCS 2140 pp 1) of 4 August 1942 relating to the transfer of the plant number 296 2) Narkomaviaproma’ in Narkomvooruzheniya’ system.

2. To instruct the Narkomaviaprom - T Shakhurin pass before November 1 of this year on factories Narkomvooruzheniya optical optical-mechanical manufacturing factory number 296 in the formulation.:
a) all work in progress for all opto-mechanical, civil and military instruments, manufactures and previously produced on the factory number 296;
b) all equipment, tools and equipment for the production of optical components and assemblies of optical instruments and 30% of the total number of factory normal cutting and measuring tools for metalworking;
c) reserves all metals, glass and other optical materials available in the plant for production of opto-mechanical devices;
d) metal cutting, optical and other equipment, according to Annex 3);
d) all workers, engineers and technicians working in the optical and assembly plants in the optical manufacturing plant and 20% of workers in the mechanical and instrumental workshops.

3. To instruct the Narkomvooruzheniya - ing. Ustinova translate transmitted, according to paragraph 2 of this resolution, optical-mechanical part of the production plant number 296 on the Siberian group of optical factories Narkomvooruzheniya 4).

4. To instruct the People's Commissariat - ing. Hrulev select cars in the amount and timing of application Narkomvooruzheniya for transportation of equipment, materials and people from the factory 296 Narkomaviaproma (Mountains. Berdsk Novosibirsk Region) optical Narkomvooruzheniya plants.


Chairman of the State Defense Committee
I. Stalin

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Top secret
Chairman of the State Defense Committee
Comrade I. V. Stalin
Here we present a draft Resolution of the State Defense Committee, "On the selection of opto-mechanical production from the plant number 296 Narkomaviaproma and transfer it to the system Narkomvooruzheniya".

Currently, the plant number 296 manufactured pumps for direct injection aircraft engines, power tools and military optical instruments.
Available in three different factory production complicates the process and does not provide further their normal development.

The draft regulation provides for the allocation of optical-mechanical manufacturing plant number 296 on Narkomvooruzheniya plants and leaving the factory number 296 in Narkomaviaproma system for the production of pumps and power (motors) of direct injection.
L. Beria
D. Ustinov
P. Dementiev

October 22, 1942
Nє LB-2788

Narkomaviaprom - National Comitee of airplane production
Narkomvooruzheniya - National Comitee of weapon (production)

Alfa2,

As promised my serial #s for the pseudo-Berdsk:

177511 Lens: FED F3.5, inside serial #5701
178482 1/1000 speed (FED-S), Lens FED F3.5, inside serial #9607

Thanks Vlad and Ulrich.

Especially interesting is pseudo-Berdsk FED S.

I dig out this thread after having tried to read this article:
http://photolubitel.com/index.php?route=module/kbm/article&kbm_article_id=9

Thanks, Luiz, for the link!
It seems, if I understand correctly the first part, that many (all? some?) Fed 1 have an inscription inside, giving the date of manufacture.

I have checked some of my Fed 1, and my last 1e s/n 183231 has 30 VIII engraved inside. So, it should have been made the 30 of august 1941, certainly at Kharkov, like all the other numbered 1e we know.

Amitiйs. Jacques.

To complete this thread, following the article of photolubitel, the internal inscriptions of my Fed 1e:

- 175011: not readable,
- 180971 S: 3 VIII
- 182912: 4 III
- 183231: 30 VIII

Many of my Fed 1 have this inscription made with a needle. The place seems on the shutter box, in the cassette house (under the rewind button). But it should be necessary to dismount partially the camera to see that perfectly.

My 182912 seems out of the lines, with its 4 III...

Amitiйs. Jacques.

Hello, thanks to all of you guys for the very interesting posts!
I think that someone expert has to edit the Wiki page, a lot confusing indeed!
I mean this one
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FED_(camera)

cheers

Ha, ha!
This part of wikipedia is much better, though not perfect:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FED_%28camera%29

Another Fed 1e, here. The s/n 183613, one of the last ones.
The date inside is 16/X or 16/XI, so after the evacuation. Could it be a "real" Berdsk? It's a pity we don't have the dates of control for the very last 1e-s, up to c. 184000, as it seems.

Of course, there can be other explanations: repair, re-mounting with other parts, etc.

Something else interesting: the lens is a collapsible macro, s/n 2121. But is it the original one? I don't know.

Amitiйs. Jacques.

Here another camera to add to the list, №175553 from a seller on ebay
https://www.ebay.com/itm/FED-BERDSKI-type-1e-Vintage-WWII-1945-Russian-Original-Camera-copy-Leica-II-D/143657847916?hash=item2172accc6c:g:F7IAAOSweFhewZH4

It seems strange inside, looking from the opened bottom... what's your feelings?