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03/28/2008 22:34

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how much did you pay?

could you shoot a test by using shift up and shift down. i would like to stitch both images.
be careful when setting distances. there is not much depth-of-field. e.g. with widelux 1500 i added additional focus-points(inbetween the meters. e.g. two more between 5 and 10m etc.
be aware that below 5m resolution is lower. that is a commun problem with widelux 1500(which i have) and pan 120/horizon 205 pc-cameras. i was told that this lens-problem da ben solved in widepan. in noblex sharpness is perfect for any distance. i tested it.
50mm lens with so much shift(+-7mm). 55m was wrong 50.5mm is true.
use a tripod when testing the camera. and make a shooting-checklist otherwise you will have double-exposures.
i have a depth-of-field-table for widelux 1500. i could provide it if you wish. since it has the same 50mm-lens and possibly the same coc(circle of confusion) it can be used for eigher camera.
i have only seen a nightshot-poster at photokina and an earlier daylight-shot-under not perfect light-conditions.

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03/28/2008 22:47

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Congratulations Aidas, It is a beauty! Can you tell what year it was made by the serial number on the lens? Mine was made in 2001. I will look forward to see more photos of the camera when you put them on your website. Also thanks for the tip about the photograph of the Bolshoi Ballet members in NYC with all of their various Soviet cameras. I will be getting it soon and will show it to everyone on a post on this forum. Thanks Aidas!

Regards, Bill

03/29/2008 01:24

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Originally posted by Jacques M.


Congratulations, Aidas!
Happy for you Big smile
By the way, what is the weight of such a camera?

Amitiés. Jacques.


Jacques,

Thanks! The weight of particular camera is 3.7 kg ... Smile

03/29/2008 01:28

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Originally posted by europanorama

how much did you pay?

could you shoot a test by using shift up and shift down. i would like to stitch both images.
be careful when setting distances. there is not much depth-of-field. e.g. with widelux 1500 i added additional focus-points(inbetween the meters. e.g. two more between 5 and 10m etc.
be aware that below 5m resolution is lower. that is a commun problem with widelux 1500(which i have) and pan 120/horizon 205 pc-cameras. i was told that this lens-problem da ben solved in widepan. in noblex sharpness is perfect for any distance. i tested it.
50mm lens with so much shift(+-7mm) and images-height of 55mm is much impressive, which makes pan 120/horizon 205 pc unique.
50mm with 55mm image-height equals 45.45mm on a 50mm image-camera like noblex/widelux/widepan with their 50mm/50mm combination.
use a tripod when testing the camera. and make a shooting-checklist otherwise you will have double-exposures.
i have a depth-of-field-table for widelux 1500. i could provide it if you wish. since it has the same 50mm-lens and possibly the same coc(circle of confusion) it can be used for eigher camera.
i have only seen a nightshot-poster at photokina and an earlier daylight-shot-under not perfect light-conditions.

www.europanorama.ch.vu
3d-stereo-aeropanorama
swiss alps like never before
marspanoramas in 3d-stereo


Michael,

thanks for your advises indeed! Unfortunately I'm collector, not active camera user, so don't expect camera test results from me ... Smile

About camera price ... I have already answered your question in previous records of particular topics ... Smile

Best Regards,
Aidas

03/29/2008 01:34

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Originally posted by nightphoto


Congratulations Aidas, It is a beauty! Can you tell what year it was made by the serial number on the lens? Mine was made in 2001. I will look forward to see more photos of the camera when you put them on your website. Also thanks for the tip about the photograph of the Bolshoi Ballet members in NYC with all of their various Soviet cameras. I will be getting it soon and will show it to everyone on a post on this forum. Thanks Aidas!

Regards, Bill





Bill,

I'm really happy to have this beautiful camera and the serials of my Pan-120 is extremely close to yours ... #010037! Your images of Horizon-205PC camera are great, so I don't think I have to place some additional ones ... Smile

I'm happy you have obtained this fantastic photograph with Bolshoj Teatr artists! I'm looking forward to see it in our catalogue as soon ...

Best Regards,
Aidas

03/29/2008 22:40

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Michael,

I just measured the height and width of my Horizon 205-PC and the size of the image it will make
on the film is exactly 50.5 mm x 110 mm. This is an exact measurement of my camera serial No. 010033,
taken at the film plane.

Regards, Bill

03/31/2008 17:22

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former data-sheet told 55 x 110mm. i received a mail telling me that its indeed 50.5mm. i once tested 205 pc at photokina. i must dig out the negatives the check. one friend told me that the camera fell apart..
but the same also took place with zeiss-ikon...
silvestricamera can tell more about the size-changes. it must have to do with shift-quality-decreasing when 55mm-image would be shown. the changed from +-8 to 7mm.
why it has no 1/250 can also be explained. widepan and widelux 1500(similar design) have the 1/250 as shortest exp. time. at start there is a 3mm overexposure in widepan. the same is in widelux 1500. we tried to improve by setting the start point earlier. it is improved but not yet perfect. maybe we will success. btw: we had exchanged the weights. i had 14 sec. exposure times. but it also slowed down 1/60-speed. for certain indoor-shots with people(fitness-center) it was not the right idea. the were too blurry. maybe having two cameras would be best.

www.europanorama.ch.vu
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swiss alps like never before
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06/12/2008 20:12

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moscovphoto is selling a horizon 205 pc with 55x 110mm. given me the zenit-istra-link with data. zenit! how about correcting this forever?
i asked to give me informations about new horizon s3-pro-production. i want one with same lens-quality like ho 202. sharp for all apertures from 8 to 16.
i want a special s3-pro(or two) with lens set to infinity. for 3d-stereo-work.why? i will explain elsewhere in a ho s3-pro-thread.

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06/14/2008 17:33

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Originally posted by europanorama

moscovphoto is selling a horizon 205 pc with 55x 110mm.

Who is this "moscovphoto"?..

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Originally posted by europanorama

zenit! how about correcting this forever?

What data do you like to "correct forever"?

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i asked to give me informations about new horizon s3-pro-production.
...

i want one...

Why you don't send a request to KMZ directly?

06/14/2008 20:10

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Michael,
I don't think there is anyone reading this forum that can build you a KMZ camera or correct whatever data you want corrected! This is a collectors and users forum ... not the KMZ factory.
And, in general, if you want something, it is much better to ask for it nicely! And ... nothing is "forever" ;-)


Regards, Bill

06/14/2008 20:51

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Hello Michael,

First of all - welcome to USSRPhoto forums! and second, I am totally lost with your last post that you made... are you asking a question or are you making a statement? Smile As Bill said we are in no way affiliated with any Soviet or Russian manufacturer, I am trying to understand your point but so far unsuccessfully.. Smile

Best regards,
Vlad

06/15/2008 09:50

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1. why cant someone of the russians here find out who is responsive for communication.

mr manchuk who was capable is now responsible for the personal. e.g. i had lost a lot of time finding out that panofot is only a prototype which will not be produced. btw: maybe panofot d3 is the new digital swinglens cam. i know sowjetunion and russia is not tiny switzerland and bigger is more complicated. maybe they are currently undergoing main structure-changes. but you must understand. i cannot do everything. i started my forum mainly due to the horizon-problem and to help KMZ-zenit to improve.
but i dont see any improvements yet. even not for the simplest communication one. kmz-zenit must at least come here and give minimum informations. digital pancams are important but mechanical ones too.
btw: arent they developping their own chip.
horizon 205 pc-despite the fact that this camere has been on the market since quite a long time, also pan-120, why cant we see highresolution-testfiles? is it so difficult to shoot and scan?
i have some tests made at silvestri-stand but they are not good enough. test-setup was bad. they didnt allow taking it out and interrupted testing.....

www.europanorama.ch.vu
3d-stereo-aeropanorama
swiss alps like never before
marspanoramas in 3d-stereo

06/15/2008 14:01

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Originally posted by europanorama

i had lost a lot of time finding out that panofot is only a prototype which will not be produced.

It is simple... Translate this page (you may translate only a first words): http://www.zenitcamera.com/archive/panofot/index.html

quote:

Ïàíîôîò (Panofot)
Ïðîåêò ïàíîðàìíîãî ôîòîàïïàðàòà... (The project of panoramic camera...)


;)

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Originally posted by europanorama

maybe panofot d3 is the new digital swinglens cam.

Not swing-lens.

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Originally posted by europanorama

but you must understand. i cannot do everything. i started my forum mainly due to the horizon-problem and to help KMZ-zenit to improve.

Say us what a problem Horisons has?

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Originally posted by europanorama

kmz-zenit must at least come here and give minimum informations.

;)
What information you needed in?

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Originally posted by europanorama

horizon 205 pc-despite the fact that this camere has been on the market since quite a long time, also pan-120, why cant we see highresolution-testfiles? is it so difficult to shoot and scan?

It is interesting for me: what you will do with this gigabyte file? What for it is necessary to you?
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